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Old 02-02-2013, 09:29 PM   #31
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constitutionally?? no. the states do not have the right to violate any of the ammendments. or any of the constitution itself. the US constitution applies to the states in the exact same manner it applies to the federal government.

but in practice the states violate it and act in extremely unconstitutional roles more than the feds do.
True, Jon. But mainly because there's so many more of them. And the fact that it's common practice does not mean that it's right.
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It is funny you think thats the way it's supposed to be, but that is the way it is. So why is it so-
Because the progressives are in control of the government and they are the most dishonest and ruthless people in the world. They took an oath which is meaningless to them!!!
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Because the progressives are in control of the government and they are the most dishonest and ruthless people in the world. They took an oath which is meaningless to them!!!
Here is what is funny .... with the Mary Jane issue the feds say it is illegal and the states say it is legal and the gun issue the feds say it is legal and the states say it is illegal. It isn't a one way street-
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Here is what is funny .... with the Mary Jane issue the feds say it is illegal and the states say it is legal and the gun issue the feds say it is legal and the states say it is illegal. It isn't a one way street-
I always wondered this myself. They pick and choose.
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Here is what is funny .... with the Mary Jane issue the feds say it is illegal and the states say it is legal and the gun issue the feds say it is legal and the states say it is illegal. It isn't a one way street-
I think the argument is that 2A is clearly stated in the constitution while Mary Jane is not, many of us argue it's part of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness but it's not a specific amendment like bearing arms.
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I think the argument is that 2A is clearly stated in the constitution while Mary Jane is not, many of us argue it's part of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness but it's not a specific amendment like bearing arms.
Why is the fed involved in it at all? Its not delegated to the fed to regulate it anyway under the 10th Amendment.

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I think the argument is that 2A is clearly stated in the constitution while Mary Jane is not, many of us argue it's part of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness but it's not a specific amendment like bearing arms.
They formed a group to handle it The ATF and they are the same people who are saying two different things. It's like they are talking out their mouth and their ass at the same time.
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They formed a group to handle it The ATF and they are the same people who are saying two different things. It's like they are talking out their mouth and their ass at the same time.
It's a mistake to view the federal government as a single entity. While it would be great if it were, it's not even close to being a single entity with a single viewpoint. Different agencies were setup at different times in history with different charters and agendas and many times they overlap. They also fight over the same budget dollars year after year, so they compete and attempt to modify themselves in order to thrive.

It's not the way it should be, I'm just stating how it is.
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It's a mistake to view the federal government as a single entity. While it would be great if it were, it's not even close to being a single entity with a single viewpoint. Different agencies were setup at different times in history with different charters and agendas and many times they overlap. They also fight over the same budget dollars year after year, so they compete and attempt to modify themselves in order to thrive.

It's not the way it should be, I'm just stating how it is.
Yeah but this is one organization not two. It is called the ATF- Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms.
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Yeah but this is one organization not two. It is called the ATF- Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms.
Perfect example of the left wing not knowing what the right wing is doing ...
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