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Old 08-18-2013, 04:12 AM   #11
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Keep digging on the laws. Somewhere---maybe far far away statute number-wise, it will be defined.

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Not really the first hand held weapons were refereed to as Pistols. It is believed the name came from the name of large coin called a Pezola. The coin was the size of the bore of the early guns. Historically single shot flint locks were called dueling pistols traveling pistols etc. By the 1890s the semi-automatics came into play. There was then 2 primary types of hand held arms. The unofficial division was cylinder loaded arms were revolvers and magazine arms were pistols. Oops! Single shots are still called pistols. All of these weapons together revolvers and pistols are generally referred to as handguns.
A pistol is a handgun in which the chamber is integral to the barrel. Single barrels are pistols. A pepper box revolver where the barrels and cylinder are integrated is a pistol. Most modern revolvers are not. Modern semiautomatics are pistols.
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If only it were that simple. There are more names for handguns than manure.

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Most laws simply distinguish handguns from long guns and are moot on pistols vs revolvers although some specifically refer to pistols, e.g. PA issues a License to Conceal a Pistol, LTCP which is meant to not allow the concealment or carrying of a longarm but would allow a revolver. So as stated, best to check the specific laws of the state and how law enforcement interprets and enforces the law. Legislative intent means little when a LEO is placing you under arrest.

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What would you call a handgun you load an en-bloc clip into?

I want one of those.

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I was under the impression handgun=pistol. All revolvers are pistols, but not all pistols are revolvers.
Traditionally you are exactly right. Unfortunately we have a bunch of lazy people that just won't type out semi-auto or auto-loading, so they have misappropriated the term pistol to mean anything capable of firing multiple rounds that doesn't have a revolving cylinder. I'm constantly correcting my posts so I don't get in trouble with the mall ninja crowd.

Do you want to have some real fun with them? Call your range time 'combat training'. It really get their knickers in a knot.
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If only it were that simple. There are more names for handguns than manure.
I don't know about that. My Mom can be pretty creative when she's angry.
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Laws that contain less than specific universal descriptions suck. My Moniker, Webley Fosbery 38 was labeled by the manufacturer as a 38 Automatic, stamped right on the side of the weapon. No, it didnt spit all 8 bullets out with one pull of the trigger. It was automatically cycled and the hammer cocked by a very cool recoil assisted mechanism instead of using the strength of ones finger to do it. What Coronal Fosbery called Automatic in 1902 and what lawmakers describe today are only useful in the context of the times we speak of. The descriptor "Hand Gun" has very little useful context in the year 2013, only means hands are advisable for the operator of the gun and nothing else (Fingers are implied but not specified).

Defining things instead of actions always gets us in trouble. The word handgun originated from the days when almost all guns were shoulder fired long-guns. Handgun just meant what it said, you could fire it without propping it against your shoulder just by holding it in your hands (today, a Longun modified with a Pistol Grip can be illegal according to where you live, no hybrids!!!). I dont know why laws are filled with so many subjective terms, likely because those writing them have very little Idea WTF they are writing laws about and Lawyers get paid billions to talk around them!

Hand gun is a colloquialism that isnt very descriptive in this day and age, generally most guns really need a hand to be fired unless they are on a drone. Descriptions that dont represent an actual physical property that can be attributed only to them are less than useful, was Mr. Scotts Phaser a Handgun? Wheel, Bolt action or Lever Action Gun, Breach or Muzzle Loader Guns, Magazine pr Cylinder fed Gun all are descriptive of some specific attribute to a Gun you could be describing or regulating (if your not a real 2a supporter), even those arent exact, their are some pretty freaky guns that have been made in the last 200 years that have more than one of those attributes, more hybrids.

At the end of the day, laws need to reflect things that are universal in understanding to all the people, not just understood to mean X by this group or that organization. We on FTF can describe things to each other pretty easily cause mostly the language of guns is something we all understand, dont try the same discussion with an airhead liberal that doesnt know the diff between a Glock and a Rock, its just a waste of time...

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dont try the same discussion with an airhead liberal that doesnt know the diff between a Glock and a Rock, its just a waste of time...
Come on, there IS no difference between a Glock and a rock...
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Come on, there IS no difference between a Glock and a rock...
Better yet...

All Glocks are rocks, but not all rocks are Glocks.
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