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02-05-2013, 11:03 PM
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02-05-2013, 11:10 PM
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From what it feels like right now we got more to worry about from state and local governing bodies trying to restrict our rights then we have fears of the feds doing a lot of things. But this is not out of the question with the feds and I would not put it past them to do just this.
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Long distance..The next best thing to being there, if you are anywhere between 100-700 yards my Howa and I own you and will choose your time of death. opaww
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02-05-2013, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by opaww
From what it feels like right now we got more to worry about from state and local governing bodies trying to restrict our rights then we have fears of the feds doing a lot of things. But this is not out of the question with the feds and I would not put it past them to do just this.
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I agree 100%. Unless SCOTUS acts to incorporate the 2A the states can do more to infringe than the feds can.
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"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington
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02-05-2013, 11:32 PM
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someone said that the new buying spree by the government was because the previous ammo contracts had run out and it was time to renew said contracts and buy more ammo.
anyone know any real insight to this?
do we have any members who ARE law enforcement officers at local, state, or federal levels?
I had heard that the military was increasing it's periodic qualifications and eating up more ammo stateside. If this is true on the USAF side, I can tell you that it's about damn time, becuase for the last 10 years, they've had a "just in time" training mentality, where you could have some career fields that would go 2 or 3 years without deploying to an actual hot zone especially when you consider that the support structure for a lot of the heavy cargo aircraft, long range bomber aircraft etc. would be stationed in locations that were outside of combat zones.
I know too many dead people because of this idiotic and retarded practice of "saving time by eliminating wasteful training until just before it's needed" and we send people into war zones having only fired 30 practice rounds in 5 years, and then expect them to drive around in convoys and work side by side with Afghans and Iraqi's who are known to turn their US Issues weapons against the advisors that gave them the guns.
so on that token, If the military IS suddenly eating more ammo to train our men and women going into harms way, I'm all for it, even if it means that I have to wait a few months before I can buy ammo at wal-mart again. (I don't know if that's the case because I'm out now, but I can say that in my last few years in, they were pushing for more and more "just in time" training, where you don't get any of the combat skills refreshers while stateside, until a month before you deploy, and we're sending IT techs, Finance personnel, Supply troops, etc. into combat zones with minimal training)
Maybe I'm naive, but I just don't buy into the whole "evil government, out to get you, turn us into a 3rd world country with military rule" conspiracies I keep hearing and reading about on the 'net.
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02-06-2013, 01:55 PM
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Maybe I'm naive, but I just don't buy into the whole "evil government, out to get you, turn us into a 3rd world country with military rule" conspiracies I keep hearing and reading about on the 'net.[/QUOTE]
Long past time for more weapon training for the troops.
The military is our best defense against government tyranny.
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02-06-2013, 02:04 PM
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You have some research to do. The military is getting more cuts. The soldiers are getting less ammo. The government ammo contracts are increasing and DHS and social security etc. are the ones getting the ammo.
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02-06-2013, 02:22 PM
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And whadda ya think they'll do with it??
Does homeland security have enough "troops" to take on the public and the military???
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02-06-2013, 02:28 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood the purpose of your quote but I can tell you for damn sure the military is not and has never been ,in the entire history of mankind, the best defense against a tyrannical government.
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02-06-2013, 02:36 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood the purpose of your quote but I can tell you for damn sure the military is not and has never been ,in the entire history of mankind, the best defense against a tyrannical government.
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I can tell you without doubt that there has never in history been a military like the U.S. military. 
These folks are our sons, brothers, fathers, daughters, sisters, neighbors, and fellow Americans.
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02-06-2013, 02:41 PM
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The government is also buying up body bags and coffins.
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