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Old 03-09-2014, 01:32 PM   #121
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The militia has nothing to do with the military, the national guard, etc. The militia is the people's right to arm and organize THEMSELVES.

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What happens when guns are banned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyS3CEIbpJo&feature=youtu.be

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I had a quick read and as usual found exaggerations and have truths. I do agree that banning firearms does not stop bad people doing bad things.

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In Britain, such people have been so successful that legal gun ownership has been reduced almost to the vanishing point
For example anyone over the age of 18 can have a firearm in the UK. So if there are less firearms in the UK its more to do with lack of interest than anything else. People can look up firearms forums in the UK to see that firearms are not near vanishing point.
There is a lot more to the below story than is being portrayed. You don't have to agree with the law , but he was guilty and admitted it.
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In November of this year, Danny Nightingale, member of a British special forces unit in Iraq and Afghanistan, was sentenced to 18 months in military prison for possession of a pistol and ammunition. Sgt. Nightingale was given the Glock pistol as a gift by Iraqi forces he had been training. It was packed up with his possessions and returned to him by colleagues in Iraq after he left the country to organize a funeral for two close friends killed in action. Mr. Nightingale pleaded guilty to avoid a five-year sentence and was in prison until an appeal and public outcry freed him on Nov. 29.
Again I doint see comparing different countries is useful. People criticised Piers Morgan for doing it.

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Moreover, another massacre occurred in June 2010. Derrick Bird, a taxi driver in Cumbria, shot his brother and a colleague then drove off through rural villages killing 12 people and injuring 11 more before killing himself.
True he used a .22 rifle and a shotgun. The British Prime Ministers response bellow.

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Manta, I am not really sure what you are getting at with your post. It is proven that here in the US the more the Citizenry at large is armed the less crime happens. Your culture perhaps is different, and you can accept the yoke that European style socialism has placed upon you but those views and ideas do not hold much sway for the average American citizen. There is a skewed view of what Americans think due to the control by the Progressives of our main stream media, but I can assure you that what you see in our media is not really representative of what we think and feel.

The average criminal here states that his biggest fear in states that honor our rights is that they will die in commission of their crime. Further, a very large portion of crime takes place between criminals although I not sure if this data is tracked. Yet over there in the UK there is an epidemic of crime going on according to your own press.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Britain-US.html

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According to the figures released yesterday, 3.6 per cent of the population of England and Wales were victims of violent crime in 1999 - second only to Australia, where the figure was 4.1 per cent.

Scotland had a slightly lower rate of violence, at 3.4 per cent.

In the U.S., only 2 per cent of the population suffered an assault or robbery.
Firearms owners are among the most law abiding people there is. Just look at the data from Texas on persons with a CCW committing crimes. Less then 0.5%-0.2% of all crime in TX is committed by CCW holders. This would tend to be a data point leading to the conclusion exorcizing our Second Amendment rights leads to a reduction in crime.

More guns, less crime.

What I am wondering is why would someone who seems uninterested in personal firearm ownership is doing slumming with us hairy knuckle colonial barbarian types? I could be wrong, but it feels a bit like I am getting trolled. Perhaps I am being too thin skinned, if so I will preemptively apologize for any offense given.

You folks over in the evolved and cultured side of the Atlantic can keep your high crime rate and I will be happy to keep my firearms and lower crime rate while I knuckle walk around like a Chimp.

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Wondering mind .

Great post with facts.


I think here in the United States if we did not fight for our 2nd Amendment rights we will turn out to be brainwashed about guns aren't important and our younger youths would feel the same way as most of UK and not care about protecting themselves.
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Great post with facts.


I think here in the United States if we did not fight for our 2nd Amendment rights we will turn out to be brainwashed about guns aren't important and our younger youths would feel the same way as most of UK and not care about protecting themselves.
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Letter to Alice Dalgliesh, the editor who was censoring his manuscript for Red Planet, regarding gun control registration and control Published in 1949
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