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Old 12-14-2012, 07:07 PM   #61
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heymatthew. Your info is not up to date. He was 24. He did not start at the class. It sounds like he started by shooting people in the office first. Then he moved to a classroom that his own mother was teaching. It was a kindergarten class. There were 8 adults killed. The news says that there is also a family member at the home of the shooter is also dead at their home. The shooters brother was on the school property in a van. They are not sure if he was involved, or was possibly trying to stop his brother. News is coming in slowly. Still quite mirky. The rifle was not in the school. He only took two 9mm pistols inside with him. He and his brother were in different vehicles.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:10 PM   #62
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The same thing was going through my mind. This couldn't possibly be some kind of government conspiracy to speed up confiscation of all firearms

Are you serious. ? Remember to put the tin foil on your head to stop the government listening to your thoughts.



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Every school in america should be REQUIRED to have two or three teachers that are trained and armed. Only then will this type of thing be stopped.

What do you if one of the teachers starts shooting.?

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Old 12-14-2012, 07:12 PM   #63
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Here's my two cents. Take it or leave it...

1. The shooter was apparently 20 years old. Tell me how tighter gun control would have helped this situation. He wasn't old enough to legally purchase the Glocks he allegedly used from any legal outlet so he had to have purchased or obtained them illegally. Whether that be from his parents' bedroom or off the street, it doesn't change the fact that the current gun laws didn't prevent an under-21 from possessing handguns, leading me to believe that tighter gun control will still be thwarted by those determined to violate the law.

2. How did the shooter make it that far into a school before he was stopped? Why did no one stop him at the entrance or in the hallway? What if he wasn't a shooter, but a pedophile and he wanted to get his hands on a child? Could he have just waltzed in, grabbed a child from the hallway and waltzed out? Probably so because apparently the security at that school was nil. I went to my high school back in 2006, about 4 years after I graduated, to pick up some transcripts for a college transfer I was planning. I made it about 50 feet into the building before an armed school resource officer (commissioned by the local police department) stopped me and asked me my intentions. I told him what I was there for and he ESCORTED me to the front office so I could make an appointment. I came back a few days later for my appointment with the records department. The same SRO greeted me at the door, ESCORTED me to the office to sign in and then ESCORTED me to the records office. When I had what I needed, they called him back up there and he ESCORTED me to the office where I signed out and was then ESCORTED out the front door.

Why isn't this standard protocol in all schools? ESPECIALLY schools with small children where kidnapping and spousal disputes can result in child misplacement or harm. I have seen too many times where a pissed off ex-husband (or wife) shows up at a ball game or a school picnic or church function and attempts a kidnap or an unauthorized interaction with their child.

I also would just like to state that I think today and the next several days would be a good time to mourn the loss of these children and adults and to lift their families, friends and loved ones up in prayer that our Father in Heaven might ease their pain and help them to find solace and comfort in His unending Grace. Religious or not, I think we owe those families at least that much. There will be plenty of time for political arguments and what we could have done differently, but for now, I say we put our partisan objectives aside and join our brothers and sisters as one to elevate these people in their time of loss.

May God bless and keep each and every one of them and may the victims find eternal peace with Him. Today is a sad day, indeed.




The highlighted part gave me chills and you couldn't be more right...+100 to you Matthew...
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Every school in america should be REQUIRED to have two or three teachers that are trained and armed. Only then will this type of thing be stopped.

What do you if one of the teachers starts shooting.?
I have not heard of any teachers shooting kids. If a teacher wanted to do that they would not have to wait until they were cleared to carry.
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heymatthew. Your info is not up to date. He was 24. He did not start at the class. It sounds like he started by shooting people in the office first. Then he moved to a classroom that his own mother was teaching. It was a kindergarten class. There were 8 adults killed. The news says that there is also a family member at the home of the shooter is also dead at their home. The shooters brother was on the school property in a van. They are not sure if he was involved, or was possibly trying to stop his brother. News is coming in slowly. Still quite mirky. The rifle was not in the school. He only took two 9mm pistols inside with him. He and his brother were in different vehicles.
You're correct... My apologies for the misinformation. My stance still doesn't change.

I've just heard that he killed his mother at home, his father at home and then visited the school. I still would like to know how he got into the school.
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Ryan Lanza 24 years old, was the shooter. Used a ".223 style rifle"
FOX reported a Glock and Sig both 9mm anywhere from 50-100 shots fired
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This is heart breaking, I pray for all those affected by this tragedy. May they find peace in Christ Jesus. May the world find peace also. I am so tired of hearing all these horrible things. Why can't we just get along. Why do people choose to hurt others that have nothing to do with their own pain? There is a serious mental disorder going around like a virus. Just really sad. If I had kids I think I would home school.
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My very deepest sympathies go out to all of the people involved here. This is a horrific tragedy. Words cannot describe.

The onset of schizophrenia is often apparent in young men of this age. This is the same age group as the shooters in Clackamas mall, Aurora and Tucson to name just a few. McVeigh was 27 when he bombed the Murrah building.

The thing that these people have in common is not guns, it is their age group and gender combined with the presence of mental illness. That is what needs to be addressed.
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Please remember the emergency personnel too. We arnt as hard as everyone thinks.
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Most of the schools around here (Florida) have armed deputies on campus as School Resource Officers. They have service weapons and tasers. I know they're stationed at middle schools and high schools but I don't remember seeing any at elementary schools.

This thing in CT is just unspeakable.
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