[GLKmiester]

Originally Posted by jcd390

Or Some people just need alittle JESUS in their life!

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[Rick1967]

Every school in america should be REQUIRED to have two or three teachers that are trained and armed. Only then will this type of thing be stopped.

[rocshaman]

The guys mother was a teacher at the school, she's presumed dead and it's possible it was her class that was involved. More craziness...

[orangello]

That is just messed up! I don't have any kids and don't usually enjoy being around them, but damn, i hate to see them get hurt, much less massacred.

RIP little ones.

[eldarbeast]

CBS just announced that 2 handguns were near the shooter's body ~ a Glock 9mm and a Sig Sauer (9mm?). A bushmaster .223 was found in the trunk of the shooter's car.

eldar

[Rick1967]

There are already 2 other threads going on this.

[StainlessSteel215]

Hey guys, real discussion for a second....

How realistic would it be for the state to hire a couple of (armed) security personnel to patrol the school during school hours? I'm thinking retired seniors (fit for the job) with LEO or military background. The state wouldnt even have to shell out that much for part-time employees. If I were retired and looking for some extra work I'd so it in a SECOND.

they could also implement training and security drills for situations like this. Just thinking out loud....

[Rick1967]

I cant believe they are interviewing children. Dirt bag reporters!!!!!

[heymatthew]

Here's my two cents. Take it or leave it...

1. The shooter was apparently 20 years old. Tell me how tighter gun control would have helped this situation. He wasn't old enough to legally purchase the Glocks he allegedly used from any legal outlet so he had to have purchased or obtained them illegally. Whether that be from his parents' bedroom or off the street, it doesn't change the fact that the current gun laws didn't prevent an under-21 from possessing handguns, leading me to believe that tighter gun control will still be thwarted by those determined to violate the law.

2. How did the shooter make it that far into a school before he was stopped? Why did no one stop him at the entrance or in the hallway? What if he wasn't a shooter, but a pedophile and he wanted to get his hands on a child? Could he have just waltzed in, grabbed a child from the hallway and waltzed out? Probably so because apparently the security at that school was nil. I went to my high school back in 2006, about 4 years after I graduated, to pick up some transcripts for a college transfer I was planning. I made it about 50 feet into the building before an armed school resource officer (commissioned by the local police department) stopped me and asked me my intentions. I told him what I was there for and he ESCORTED me to the front office so I could make an appointment. I came back a few days later for my appointment with the records department. The same SRO greeted me at the door, ESCORTED me to the office to sign in and then ESCORTED me to the records office. When I had what I needed, they called him back up there and he ESCORTED me to the office where I signed out and was then ESCORTED out the front door.

Why isn't this standard protocol in all schools? ESPECIALLY schools with small children where kidnapping and spousal disputes can result in child misplacement or harm. I have seen too many times where a pissed off ex-husband (or wife) shows up at a ball game or a school picnic or church function and attempts a kidnap or an unauthorized interaction with their child.

I also would just like to state that I think today and the next several days would be a good time to mourn the loss of these children and adults and to lift their families, friends and loved ones up in prayer that our Father in Heaven might ease their pain and help them to find solace and comfort in His unending Grace. Religious or not, I think we owe those families at least that much. There will be plenty of time for political arguments and what we could have done differently, but for now, I say we put our partisan objectives aside and join our brothers and sisters as one to elevate these people in their time of loss.

May God bless and keep each and every one of them and may the victims find eternal peace with Him. Today is a sad day, indeed.

[Cattledog]

I can't wrap my head around it. Adults snapping and killing at random is one thing. A teenager shooting up his own school even makes more sense....but this? Murdering children? This is beyond crazy. All aside the fact that schools in this country are so security conscious. I can't possibly fathom what those parents are going through.

I think the word "senseless " has just been redefined.

On the note of "gun free" zones as death traps, I totally agree with one exception. I'd be way more comfortable with the idea if professional armed security is in place. ie: government buildings. Many high schools even have armed liaison officers on site. Even mine did decades before it required the metal detectors it has now. Anywhere a "no firearms" sign exists there should be an armed guard somewhere in the building. Its the only way that policy makes sense.