[Squawk]

Originally Posted by 95sniper

Its in the constitution, oh wait nobody reads that anymore these days...

Nope. Elected officials use it as toilet paper.

[Balota]

You can't count Sniper's opinion on number of rounds needed... he only needs ONE!

[eldarbeast]

Originally Posted by trip286

Just wanted to point out that much of this actually has more to do with our sue happy society than any union agenda.

Bullshyt!

Security Officers, both commissioned and non-commissioned, stood the test of time for more than 140 years until the LEO establishments conspired to limit Private Security companies ability to do their jobs.

Spend some time in research and find out just how many LEO Union Organizations were behind actual legislation to limit Private Security companies. You'll need to go back to the early 1960's.

eldar

[eldarbeast]

Originally Posted by Flat Tire

Everyone should be allowed to protect themselves. Are ten rounds enough to protect yourself ?

If you find yourself limited to ten rounds, carry more ten round magazines...

eldar

[Flat Tire]

Originally Posted by eldarbeast

If you find yourself limited to ten rounds, carry more ten round magazines...

eldar

I like my 17 round mag in the Beretta.

http://www.berettausa.com/products/model-92a1/

[fmj]

Originally Posted by earl1412

I agree that the teachers involved tried in vain to shield the kids, so since the school systems around the country with very few exceptions, won't allow a direct response with a weapon, I took it upon myself to give a ballistic clip board to a female teacher friend of mine. I know that some of you will just blow this gesture off, but at least the clip board will stop a 44 mag round from penetrating, possibly allowing some form of escape to be made. I am not involved with the people that make this board, but thought that if we give these to friends/family that are in stupid GFZ's we as "pro gun nuts" (to quote a term from the left) would at least seem to try defensive measures, and not waste our time and breath trying to convince "religiously gun resistant" people to change in the short term.
The company can be contacted at ballisticclipboard.com
earl1412

A great idea...but what good will it do in the face of .223's et al?

[Balota]

Originally Posted by Flat Tire

I like my 17 round mag in the Beretta.

http://www.berettausa.com/products/model-92a1/

And my 19 round mags in my XDm

[Balota]

Originally Posted by fmj

A great idea...but what good will it do in the face of .223's et al?

Maybe none, but a NON tactical clipboard won't stand up to a handgun round either. At least the clipboard provides some kind of protection against something. It's the thought that counts ... Hey, here's a thought. Allow the teacher to carry a gun in addition to that clipboard!!!

[trip286]

Originally Posted by eldarbeast

Bullshyt!

Security Officers, both commissioned and non-commissioned, stood the test of time for more than 140 years until the LEO establishments conspired to limit Private Security companies ability to do their jobs.

Spend some time in research and find out just how many LEO Union Organizations were behind actual legislation to limit Private Security companies. You'll need to go back to the early 1960's.

eldar

Having worked in security, I have found that every company I've worked for limited the actions of their officers because they were terrified of the almighty lawsuit. That has nothing to do with police unions and history, that has to do with my personal experience on the job, armed and unarmed.

[Steel_Talon]

Originally Posted by trip286

Having worked in security, I have found that every company I've worked for limited the actions of their officers because they were terrified of the almighty lawsuit. That has nothing to do with police unions and history, that has to do with my personal experience on the job, armed and unarmed.

The "observe and report" mentality....lol