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06-08-2011, 05:49 AM
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therewolf im sorry to say you are absolutely wrong there is nothing in the d.o.t. book that states that .with your permit if your legal in that state then your legal .
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06-08-2011, 06:32 AM
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Please list that FEDERAL REGULATION so it will put everyone's mid at ease. TITLE 49 CFR XXX.XX........please let us know what it is! I contend that there is no such regulation but I have been wrong a time or two.
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Oh, did they rescind the FOPA-Public Law#99-308,100 Stat.449,
enacted May 19th, 1986 without telling anyone but you?
Thanks for letting us know...
As stated previously, guys, this is for TRANSPORTATION purposes ONLY from one legal possession area to another.
If you load a gun in a state where it's not legal, you are not covered, and local LE statutes take precedence...
twobadazbrothers, if D.O.T. made a separate ruling it would cloud the issue and create red tape and
unwanted liability for them. There's already a Federal law on the books, so DOT just took a Mulligan on the topic.
I'm wrong? Oooh, slow day over there? THAT's news...
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06-08-2011, 06:44 AM
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Gentlemen- you are referring to the "Peaceable Journey" law- and while it PERMITS transport thru a state by locking a firearm in other the passenger compartment, it does not REQUIRE it. For example, you have a concealed carry permit, you are in a state that recognizes your permit, Fed law does not REQUIRE that you have your weapon locked away.
The Motor Carrier Safety Act does not set limitations of carry by a CDL driver that I am aware of- WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CERTAIN CARGOES. I can tell you for sure that firearms are not permitted in an explosives carrier, and would suspect that will also apply to flammables transporters, isobutyl badstuff, etc.
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06-08-2011, 03:16 PM
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Bravo sierra
Quote:
Originally Posted by therewolf
Oh, did they rescind the FOPA-Public Law#99-308,100 Stat.449,
enacted May 19th, 1986 without telling anyone but you?
Thanks for letting us know...
As stated previously, guys, this is for TRANSPORTATION purposes ONLY from one legal possession area to another.
If you load a gun in a state where it's not legal, you are not covered, and local LE statutes take precedence...
twobadazbrothers, if D.O.T. made a separate ruling it would cloud the issue and create red tape and
unwanted liability for them. There's already a Federal law on the books, so DOT just took a Mulligan on the topic.
I'm wrong? Oooh, slow day over there? THAT's news...
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That whole chapter is about transfers, tax stamps, importation and manufacture. Just cut and paste the specific regulation that you know so well with regard to Interstate Transport via personal or semi truck conveyance. As I posted earlier, you have to follow the laws of the State in which you are present. The main concern of the OP was (being in a class 8/semi-truck ) whether or not any specific/special laws were pertinent to his situation. I don't care who is right or wrong, makes no difference to me, just post up this regulation. Cite the chapter and paste the regulation, thats all we are asking here, since you have it...should be simple as pie.
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06-08-2011, 03:21 PM
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You are right C3...when being shipped via a common carrier as part of a shipment it is a whole different ballgame. It's not the same as a firearm being part of the personal affects of a driver.
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06-08-2011, 04:08 PM
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That whole chapter is about transfers, tax stamps, importation and manufacture. Just cut and paste the specific regulation that you know so well with regard to Interstate Transport via personal or semi truck conveyance. As I posted earlier, you have to follow the laws of the State in which you are present. The main concern of the OP was (being in a class 8/semi-truck ) whether or not any specific/special laws were pertinent to his situation. I don't care who is right or wrong, makes no difference to me, just post up this regulation. Cite the chapter and paste the regulation, thats all we are asking here, since you have it...should be simple as pie.
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Dude, google-check it out.
I'm not your personal librarian...
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06-08-2011, 04:12 PM
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Dude, google-check it out.
I'm not your personal librarian...
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Did...not there...Just what I thought.
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06-08-2011, 04:42 PM
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Did...not there...Just what I thought.
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Yes!! You get the VITAMIN N!
Play your psychological BS on some moron.
You asked for the law I referred to, I gave it to you.
What do you want me to check out for you next,
statistics on toilet bowl cleaning in Lower Mongolia?
Google works for lazy people, too.
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06-09-2011, 03:29 AM
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Nope, nowhere in there...please enlighten us with your google knowledge.
Federal Firearms Laws
The National Firearms Act
As Amended By:
Public Law No. 99-308, 100 Stat. 449, Approved May 19, 1986.
and
Public Law 99-100-203, 101 Stat. 1330, Approved December 22, 1987.
[references to the Internal Revenue Code of 1954 within this Act or
amendments thereto refer to the Internal Revenue Code of 1986. (2,
Public Law 99-514, 100 Stat. 2085, October 22, 1986)]
TITLE II
MACHINE GUNS, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND CERTAIN OTHER FIREARMS
Section 201, Chapter 53 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954 is
amended to read as follows:
CHAPTER 53
MACHINE GUNS, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND CERTAIN OTHER FIREARMS
Subchapter A. Taxes.
Subchapter B. General provisions and exemptions.
Subchapter C. Prohibited acts.
Subchapter D. Penalties and forfeitures.
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