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Old 05-19-2014, 08:21 PM   #41
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There is a problem, though. Although South Carolina laws pretty well favor gun rights, if you enter a place with a proper sign posted indicating guns are not permitted, it is a felony with a mandatory 5 year sentence. So it is better not to press your luck. But the places that do post such a sign will find their customer (and cash) flow will be greatly decreased.
Of course I defer to those who know the local law. There's no such law around here, but CCW are prohibited at the bars serving liquor. So if I went to eat at a restaurant and found a queue inside, I'd need to go back and lock up the gun before entering the bar. And I do. Not because I am such a good boy. Because I'd have a coupla drinks and then, who knows, the gun goes peekaboo, or someone touches it, whatever, there is too much to lose. I do feel uncomfortable sometimes around certain types, but choose the lesser evil, and just don't go to seedy looking places.
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Of course I defer to those who know the local law. There's no such law around here, but CCW are prohibited at the bars serving liquor. So if I went to eat at a restaurant and found a queue inside, I'd need to go back and lock up the gun before entering the bar. And I do. Not because I am such a good boy. Because I'd have a coupla drinks and then, who knows, the gun goes peekaboo, or someone touches it, whatever, there is too much to lose. I do feel uncomfortable sometimes around certain types, but choose the lesser evil, and just don't go to seedy looking places.

So we wouldn't "find you at the, The Spanish Moon,....."( A little tune written and performed by Little Feat...)


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I like the thinking on this, but I will caution anyone who chooses to do this to check their local and state laws before doing so. In some places these signs do bear the weight of law, and one can be arrested for ignoring them. In places where this is the case, there are size and placement laws as to what is valid, and what is not.

And yes, I do agree with Merc on this, concealed means concealed. If you do it right, no one will know you are carrying until the need to use it presents it's self. All I am saying is CYA.
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There is a problem, though. Although South Carolina laws pretty well favor gun rights, if you enter a place with a proper sign posted indicating guns are not permitted, it is a felony with a mandatory 5 year sentence. So it is better not to press your luck. But the places that do post such a sign will find their customer (and cash) flow will be greatly decreased.
The answer to that question is in my quoted post above. Know and follow the laws in your city\village\town, county, state, etc. Know and obey the laws regarding where you can CC, and you are generally good to go.

In NY, those signs don't carry the weight of law, but where you can not carry is a fairly small list. Government buildings, hospitals, schools, and school functions are pretty much it. Everywhere else is fair game, but CC is the only carry option in the state. If you even print, you will get in trouble on the hard side, or asked to leave if you are somewhere with understanding management. Not sure on PA yet, as to where. Still looking up that information, I do know that OC is a gray area (there are no laws that say you can, but there are none that say you can't), CCLs are $20 for 5 years, and a state issued pistol hunting licence is required for someone over 18 YOA to hunt with a handgun. By the time I finish moving in at the Erie house, i will know the go\no go laws.

Point is, if you know your laws it is easy to CYA and stay out of trouble. Mercator's post also sums this up pretty well.
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As gun owners, whether or not our decisions are dictated by the law, we are still accountable for them. And we owe it to each other to act as checks on bad behavior before the legal system steps in and does it for us. If we exercise poor judgment, our decisions will have consequences. These consequences could be simple and transitory, such as watching a trophy buck bound away into the woods after a missed shot from an improperly sighted rifle. They could also be lasting and consequential, such as turning an undecided voter into an antigun voter because of causing that person fear or offense. In ways small and large, we are all in this together, and we all have a role to play in preserving our cherished freedoms for ourselves and future generations.
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