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From Heston's quote, you can infer that Heston believes some (good) people should be able to have guns and some (bad) people should not. It therefore stands to reason that he did not believe in an absolute constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

Given that, it is just a matter of selecting who is good and who is bad, and who does the selection; and therein lies the rub. Absolute and selective are mutually exclusive terms.
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From Heston's quote, you can infer that Heston believes some (good) people should be able to have guns and some (bad) people should not. It therefore stands to reason that he did not believe in an absolute constitutional right to keep and bare arms.

Given that, it is just a matter of selecting who is good and who is bad; and therein lies the rub.
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IIRC his board membership is up for renewal. Members are encouraged to petition for nomination as well...

I think he'd make a great representative too...

Ronnie Barrett also fits that mold if you asked me...which nobody did...
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IIRC his board membership is up for renewal. Members are encouraged to petition for nomination as well...

I think he'd make a great representative too...

Ronnie Barrett also fits that mold if you asked me...which nobody did...
i agree! Ronnie Barrett would also make a fine spokesman for the NRA and after seeing some of the videos he made in support of gun owners in the state of California and his stance and position, yes he also would be a fine choice.
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What about R Lee Ermey?

Certainly has the recognition factor...

Grover Norquist? Well, maybe, maybe not...

I think we can exclude the Nuge and Karl Malone from that list...
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What about R Lee Ermey?

Certainly has the recognition factor...

Grover Norquist? Well, maybe, maybe not...

I think we can exclude the Nuge and Karl Malone from that list...
R. Lee Ermey? hmmmm... maybe, but Selleck or Barrett IMO would be better choices. and do like Ermey, and glad he's on board. Selleck has a better presence and voice.

as much as i like Nugent's passion and dedication, he might be just a little too enthusiastic!
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If you visit Whittington Center the NRA shooting complex at Raton, NM you will see his statue. There is a life size bronze of Mr. Heston mounted on his horse.
As you can see on this forum the "Left Wingers" hated him because of his open display of patriotism. They never admit the far left was afraid to march with MLK. The far left admires the weak and fears the strong.
As for me he will always be the Cowboy "Will Penny".
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this thread needs a shameless bump again! just because Charleton Heston was such an outspoken person in his views of guns and gun ownership.
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From Heston's quote, you can infer that Heston believes some (good) people should be able to have guns and some (bad) people should not. It therefore stands to reason that he did not believe in an absolute constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
That was pretty good pretzel logic.

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Given that, it is just a matter of selecting who is good and who is bad, and who does the selection; and therein lies the rub.
No problem at all. It is only difficult to tell the bad guys from the good guys when you don't stand for anything. I have no problem at all knowing who's who in the zoo. Neither do the vast majority of those who live here. I do get things wrong once in a long while and when that happens, I have no problem with a sincere apology. The only thing worse than getting that wrong once in a rare while (and then likely only temporarily) is never being able to make the call.

Speakin' of Heston and Reagan, here's a bit of trivia I don't get:

Heston and Reagan were both born in Illinois. Obama's stomping grounds and, seems to me, a Borg hive. And yet both of them turned out to be intelligent, principled conservatives and leaders.

Johnson and the Bush Presidents were Texans. All of them were statists, Johnson especially (of course) but both Bushes also promoted bigger government.

Seems wierd to me that renowned conservatives come from Ill. and renowned big-government leaders came from Tx. Might be my western bigotry showing through..
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