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Old 10-20-2010, 12:18 AM   #11
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The question is which government is intruding into the lives of citizens? The federal government that tries to increase freedom or the state/local governments that try to quash it? This is an odd case, because it's usually the other way 'round.
Under the Originalist view of the Constitution (Scalia adheres to this, and to some extent do Roberts and Alito) the answer is already IN the Constitution. Its in the Commerce Clause. It is the Commerce clause that settled the Licensing question when automobiles became ubiquitous in modern society. Same with licensing pilots when airplanes became affordable for the average citizen to own. Congress has used the Commerce Clause (and SCOTUS concurred) to allow people to move themselves between state borders without needing to seek out licensing in all 50 states.

So, we don't NEED FedGov to pass a law that mandates National Open Carry...we simply need SCOTUS to reaffirm that if States wish to have a licensing scheme, said scheme is the same as all other licenses, and can be carried state to state and honored without question.

If a State thinks it can dodge that by not issuing licenses (so as to say *we aren't participants in licensing*) then the 2nd gets applied under the intent of the Declaration (which SCOTUS has also used in the past) because one's right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness is an INALIENABLE Right, which precedes the wording of the Declaration and Constitution, and thus falls under Natural Law. Natural Law dictates that you have the right to defend yourself, your family, and your fellow Human Beings...and the OBLIGATION to do so.

Its sad that we've strayed so far from the core principals that the Country was built on...

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Well said, Dragon - I agree completely. But as we have seen, the government (at all levels) doesn't worry about a trifling matter like obeying the law.

Of course, when you really grasp the import of that fact, most thinking Americans would ask "Then why should we obey the law?"

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I have had my cc in other states when i was in the service, and i think that cc permitted in wisconsin would gravely help in our crime rates, especially those that are aggressive in nature like rape, theft and a whole host of others. i have done a lot of research on the subject and it has been proven time and time again in the states that have enacted cc that crimes of violent nature always show a decrees in frequency.
Law makers hear in wisconsin have little brains, it only makes sense, from a criminals stand point, they generally will think twice before engaging in activities that would or could be conducive in harming a victim if that victim he or she may be armed.
Further more i am unable to understand there logic in banning it for wisconsin residents when the vast amount of studies conducted on the matter all point towards an ideal outcome, Crime drops, revenue for the state increases and the average citizen is no longer a lamb amongst wolves.

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We can hope, but it won't likely happen.

States will always resist the intrusion of Federal Law. ....
As well they (we) should. It is a State's right issue. For tose who can not carry, elect officials who will change that in your state, don't wait for the feds to try to dictate your rights, or lack there of.
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That USA today poll has been around for at least a couple years now I doubt anything is being done with it.

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The 2nd Amendment reaffirms our natural right to bear arms. I know that it's picking the fly crap out of the pepper, but it says that the right to bear arms will not be infringed.

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