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Old 07-12-2010, 12:09 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by robocop10mm View Post
Trying to attach logic to the legislative process is very naive indeed.
That was my point exactly. Logic would dictate one course of action and they take another. My final word.
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:19 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by soyeahiknow View Post
Ok thanks. I wasn't sure though, since NY has more strict laws that ohio. I am thinking about buying one in Ohio and taking it to NY to keep in my apartment this fall.
Yes, the Kel-Tec Carbine is a "rifle" for legal purposes....

The big problem I see is the New York state "assault weapons" law -

18 22. "Assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an abil-
19 ity to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the follow-
20 ing characteristics:
21 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
22 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
23 the weapon;
24 (iii) a bayonet mount;
25 (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
26 flash suppressor;
27 (v) a grenade launcher; or
28 (b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following

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Since the Kel-Tec has a pistol grip, and since it folds in half, I suspect it would qualify as an "assault weapon".

I think you also need to worry about magazine capacity in New York.
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:52 AM   #33
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You are correct that some states (NY, NJ, and CA) kinda being the "Big Three" of those put limits on "options". We all know how rediculous it is to limit the stuff they do. We've been there many times and it needs to be recogized or it will never be changed.

Ok, mag caps are even more spread wide. Ohio limits mag caps to 30 and it is clear about the importation of larger cap mags.

Anyhoo, perhaps a link to the laws of NY for the OP? That way, he can know for sure and not break any laws. I believe the OP does want to be legal, or the question would not have been not asked. That's why it has been said to check NY laws. A link would make that easier for even the rest of us. Thanks.
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:38 AM   #34
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Here is the web page where I found NY's definition of "assault weapons" -

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Originally Posted by General_lee View Post
A carbine IS a long gun.
It's NOT a long gun if it only has a pistol grip and no butt stock.
Really? Even if it meets the minimum OAL?

To be a non NFA rifle/carbine, the barrel length has to be
at least 16". There is also a minimum overall length of 26". If it has a
collapsible or folding buttstock, the OAL length is measured at the shortest position.
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If it meets those criteria, (used to measure a SBR) then you'd be good.

The term "Carbine" is used in different ways. Mostly to describe the operating system of a rifle. This is where it probably gets confusing.
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