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Old 05-19-2011, 05:56 PM   #41
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Wolf you taking a few bad experince with LEO's and saying there all bad i think. With everything in life you have to take the bad with the good. You cant expect to find nice cop's every where you go there are Millions of Leo's out there and they are not all good. Just like there are millions of burger flippers they are not good.

The bad usally get weeded out in the long run. Its very unfortunate you got jumped and that the police treated you that way. You cant sit there though and say that all Police abuse there powers.

The Leo's have a tough job to do they dont know who is a good guy till they get to the bottom with question's and checks. Yes they probably should of you needed some help after they found out you was ok, Did you ask for assistance? Did you tell them you wanted to file a report? I just hope you dont have a bad opinion of the Police because of a few bad exp of your own and other's. Remeber the news thrives on bad publicity you hardly ever hear of the good that police do every single day.

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Old 05-19-2011, 06:13 PM   #42
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+1 on that FaTmAn, thumbs up

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Wolf you taking a few bad experince with LEO's and saying there all bad i think. With everything in life you have to take the bad with the good. You cant expect to find nice cop's every where you go there are Millions of Leo's out there and they are not all good. Just like there are millions of burger flippers they are not good.

The bad usally get weeded out in the long run. Its very unfortunate you got jumped and that the police treated you that way. You cant sit there though and say that all Police abuse there powers.

The Leo's have a tough job to do they dont know who is a good guy till they get to the bottom with question's and checks. Yes they probably should of you needed some help after they found out you was ok, Did you ask for assistance? Did you tell them you wanted to file a report? I just hope you dont have a bad opinion of the Police because of a few bad exp of your own and other's. Remeber the news thrives on bad publicity you hardly ever hear of the good that police do every single day.
OK, there ya go. But without going on and on, my personal experiences

have generally been less than laudable. Do you really think I just woke up one

day, and decided "Hey! I just think I'll suddenly start disliking LEOs!" ??
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I was the op in all this. It has gone a different direction than I thought it would. Just to clarify where I stand my father in law retired as a captain from one of the largest sheriff's departments in the state. He then served as sheriff in my home county for two terms. I've worked with the highway patrol, city, and county sheriff departments very closely for well over 20 years. I've helped deputies subdue suspects, been part of their bit*h sessions, and made friends with a bunch of them. Yes, there are some who aren't the nicest people you will find, but that is true in any profession.

I think the anger and outrage should be leveled at the court. It is my oppinion that the case that was decided was flagrantly unlawful and should have been ruled so. The cops who were involved should have been given whatever is due for that offense and the fourth amendment reconfirmed. Every time a right is weakened it pulls all of our rights down as well. We are on a very slippery slope in the coming years as cases similar to this are adjudicated.

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Well said fireguy. Thumbs up.

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+1, fireguy.

Our courts are definitely part of the problem, making cops' lives harder and making everyones' lives harder in turn.

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I am sure "probable cause" is well understood by everyone here. If a cop has reason to believe a crime is committed he's gonna do something and you have no right to stop him.

The 4th amendment argument is great but in the "world" the cops are going to cite probable cause and do what they do.

Resisting apolice officer is always going to get you in trouble that lasts a lifetime whether the cop is exceeding his authority or not, they will make it stick.

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