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Old 02-10-2014, 05:06 AM   #31
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Bill we heard you. Close only counts in Horse shoes and Hand grenades. You need to read the 1968 Federal Gun Laws to get a complete understanding.
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Some battles are not worth the fight. And a cheap common firearm is not worth it.
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He had attempted to kill himself a few other times but failed. I think he scratched the numbers so his family wouldn't find out the gun came from me. I registered it 17-18 years ago. I lived in a city that required all handguns be registered. He lived in a county that did not so he didn't. I do not have the papers but I'm sure they could look it up. At this point the family's going to surrender it to Leo,s. The gun was no longer mine he took $600 off a $2000 loan for it. So the only thing I lost was a good friend. Thanks for all your help.


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So the only thing I lost was a good friend. Thanks for all your help.


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until the GCA of 1968, a lot of cheap or inexpensive firearms didn't have serial numbers because they were not required. but even if the firearm was made before 1968, and it had a serial number, destroying that serial number is a federal crime. after 1968, every firearm had better have had a serial number from the factory, regardless of it's cost or value to be legal.
What if the serial was filed off in say 1951, that was a legal activity then. How could they prove you filed it off after 1968? I could see if you had a G17 missing the serial, but what about an old 1911?
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What if the serial was filed off in say 1951, that was a legal activity then. How could they prove you filed it off after 1968? I could see if you had a G17 missing the serial, but what about an old 1911?
honestly, i can't answer that because i don't know the answer. i have had some older guns in the past that simply just didn't have a serial number, but none that i can remember having had one that was removed.
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I believe NiteStalkers advice about "Forum Advice" is well founded.

I played football w the local constable and while BSing about guns in general I asked him what you should do if you happen to acquire a "throw down/illegal" firearm ? Was there a legalization process ?

He told me the police/law rather looked at it like the old game of Hot Potato - Whoever gets caught w it gets burned. Yes, there are acid tests which could probably retrieve the number but it's probably cheaper for the police to just destroy it. (Unless used in crime) His adice (off the record) was to drop it off a bridge somewhere. (Remenber - He was NOT a lawyer - A lawyer would have billed me a 1/4 hr for answering a question.

OP - My prayers are w you and his family. If this was the weapon he used, I would like to think filing off the serial numbers to protect your identity was his last act of kindness to you.

Lesson for all of us: Always complete the Transfer Paperwork. In CT, we only had to do it for pistols but rifles/shotguns could be sold w a handshake & cash. Now, I believe I can still sell a rifle but not Hi-cap mag w/o - Transfer of custody paperwork. Each state has their own hoops to jump through.
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What if the serial was filed off in say 1951, that was a legal activity then. How could they prove you filed it off after 1968? I could see if you had a G17 missing the serial, but what about an old 1911?
In Texas, the possession of an article with a defaced serial number is a crime, regardless of when it was defaced. It is a separate crime to do the defacing.
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If Robocop isn't right about that his advice is what I would follow. I would never risk getting caught with a firearm that has been altered in that way. Period.

On the other hand, if I lived in a state where FTF transfers are legal I might take the precaution of checking the serial number of a firearm that I am interested in buying before I buy. Wold the local PD do this for you? (please note that I am in CA where FTF transfers are not legal, we must do all transfers through an FFL with the DROS and 10 day waiting period in all cases).
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