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JWagner 05-18-2013 02:45 PM

California gets microstamping?
 
If these documents are legit, it looks like California is going ahead with the microstamping requirement for handguns. That should boost the value of the guns not covered by this new law.

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/infobuls/2013-BOF-03.pdf

opaww 05-18-2013 03:02 PM

This will stop some gun companies from selling to Ca. and is another reason I will never go back to that commie state

clr8ter 05-18-2013 03:06 PM

Well, just another good reason to police up your brass......

Overkill0084 05-18-2013 03:39 PM

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Following the issuance of the Department of Justice's certification, the provisions of Penal Code section 31910, subdivision (b )(7)(A) are in immediate effect. Therefore, to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale in California, a semiautomatic pistol must be equipped with microstamping technology-i.e., a microscopic array of characters that identify the make, model, and serial number of the pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in two or more places on the interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol, and that are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm is fired.
Aside from the firing pin, is there any other reliable way to transfer the the markings? The whole thing seems like an expensive, elaborate & easily defeated solution to a non-existent problem. Even in the deep blue state of CA, how many legally owned firearms are involved in crimes?
Break out the Dremel.

John_Deer 05-18-2013 04:14 PM

Sounds like a way to turn a reliable firearm into a pistol with extraction problems.

trip286 05-18-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Overkill0084 (Post 1250653)
Aside from the firing pin, is there any other reliable way to transfer the the markings? The whole thing seems like an expensive, elaborate & easily defeated solution to a non-existent problem. Even in the deep blue state of CA, how many legally owned firearms are involved in crimes?
Break out the Dremel.

There is NO reliable way. No "micro stamping" imprint would be any good after a few boxes of ammo and a handful of vigorous post range trip cleanings.

Think of a stamp. Big rubber stamp. Now make it miniscule to the point that the material making the definition is as brittle as a piece of puffed rice cereal. Now hit it with a 3 pound hammer. THAT'S the similar effect that "micro stamping" in a gun will undergo as the firing pin slams into primers, or case walls slam into chamber walls, or slide into them under the force of the action spring.

The biggest problem? Is yet another bull **** piece of legislation that will do nothing but make criminals out of otherwise law abiding citizens, and do ABSOLUTELY NOT A GOD DAMN MOTHER ****ING THING to stop crime.

WebleyFosbery38 05-18-2013 07:04 PM

So far Microstamping hasnt been accomplished reliably from what Ive read.

trip286 05-18-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WebleyFosbery38 (Post 1250756)
So far Microstamping hasnt been accomplished reliably from what Ive read.

And it won't be. The only way that anyone could regulate it currently (using current materials and metallurgy) is to have complete and total government control. I'm talking full government operated weapons inspections after each and every range trip, using sophisticated equipment and highly trained personnel, with compulsory replacement of worn stamping surfaces. To implement this, all guns would have to be kept in a government storage facility to prevent defacement of stamping surfaces during unsanctioned range trips, and the range itself would have to be government run and operated, highly supervised.

Frankly put, California can't afford to enforce it either.

manta 05-18-2013 07:21 PM

Would it not be easy just to do a ballistics test on the firearm.

JonM 05-18-2013 07:35 PM

easier if you ARE going to do something like commit a crime toss a handfule of random brass on the ground and use a revolver...

stampnings and all that are complete waste of money and time. but gun control is NOT about effective solutions to any problems its about making you less safe with the government in tighter control of your life and criminals free to rape murder and rob so as to make the general populace more fearful and willing to enact tighter controls in order for the government to gain more power... one and and on and on. ever wonder why chitcago DC LA sanfrancisco detroit dallas houston milwaukee are the way they are?? its called working as intended. the more people are victimized the more they are willing to toss away freedom for the yoke of slavery.

democrats and liberals have been PISSED ever since lincoln freed the slaves and want nothing more than a subject slave class so they can live off the hard work of others.

liberals could give two farts if its effective or not as that is NOT the point of the law.

it really makes me want to beat my head against the wall when people start arguing over the merits of things liberals do when the whole point of liberal gun control is not about solving anything except exerting power.


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