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Old 02-09-2013, 04:08 AM   #41
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I know I would pay a little bit more for a gun that is privately sold to me because no paper trail.
And there is certainly nothing wrong with that. Sadly, the federal government has done little to earn our trust or respect. These two qualities are not simply a right of election or appointment but earned attributes.

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Indeed. I have also payed more for a used (like new) handgun than they went for new because I simply couldnt find one new.
Agreed. I just paid MSRP on a lightly used .44 magnum revolver as I wanted a particular barrel length in stainless and I grew tired of searching and waiting for one to pop up somewhere. This particular firearm seldom sold at full MSRP until the current political climate arrived.

Its in very nice condition, I'll make the little mods I prefer and we'll live happily ever after. No regrets.
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I only have 2 guns they don't know of. One does have a paper trail ends with my Grandpa and one the government doesn't even know about at all neither does the ATF nor have they ever.
Yep, I miss that aspect of Ohio greatly. Had a few like that before I moved out of Ohio.
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30 round magazine limit for anything over .22 rimfire.

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30 round magazine limit for anything over .22 rimfire.
Have a hard time finding 30+mags for anything over 22 from my experience in any state. Just not a whole lot of them.
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When deciding to engage a business you first find a market. She knew of a large market for handguns. Her customer were unable to do a legal purchase.
This is a criminal issue not a right assured by the Bill Of Rights. People who deal in illegal firearms are not concerned about our RTKABA.

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I only have 2 guns they don't know of. One does have a paper trail ends with my Grandpa and one the government doesn't even know about at all neither does the ATF nor have they ever.
Not anymore.
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Not anymore.
Yeah really, you kinda blew the whistle on yourself on that one.
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When deciding to engage a business you first find a market. She knew of a large market for handguns. Her customer were unable to do a legal purchase.
This is a criminal issue not a right assured by the Bill Of Rights. People who deal in illegal firearms are not concerned about our RTKABA.
I cant get the original website to open...so I cant look for myself (just going off the comments of others) but I havnt heard that she sold to any BG's other than a drug dealer?

If she only sold to one BG I would ask the prosecution to demonstrate mens rea, which IS part of due process, and which the CJ system has by and large ignored in this country. Innocent until proven guilty.

(As I said, I cannot view the article itself and I am basing my reaction on that of other posters)
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Hey hey I didn't say what they are never will say what they are either.
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If she only sold to one BG I would ask the prosecution to demonstrate mens rea, which IS part of due process, and which the CJ system has by and large ignored in this country. Innocent until proven guilty.
The sheer number of sales would, I believe, constitute a prima facie mens rea in the eyes of the law.

The prosecution will argue that 31 sales in two weeks clearly establishes intent to ignore the law.
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