[locutus]

If you live any of several major cities in the U.S., the police would react exactly the same as the Brits.

In the other 99 percent of the U.S., the policeman would probably wink, and tell you to let him bleed out before you call.

[manta]

Originally Posted by axxe55

sad you live in a country that does not allow you the right to defend yourself against an armed attacker bent on doing you harm. this is an issue that is being fought and defended here everyday in America. we will not give up this right without huge opposition and we have several organizations that fight for these rights.

You are allowed to use lethal force in the UK just as you are in America.

[locutus]

Originally Posted by manta

You are allowed to use lethal force in the UK just as you are in America.

Does that include a gun?

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by manta

You are allowed to use lethal force in the UK just as you are in America.

yes i was wondering the same thing. does that include a gun? because one of your previous posts said the homeowner stabbed the intruder?

[manta]

Originally Posted by robocop10mm

What about this scenario tells you it is a "bad shooting"? Someone comes into you home and commits a Felony! You have every right to defend yourself from felonious behavior. This is a natural right given to us by our creator. In most jurisdictions ini America, you would be questioned, the case turned over to a Grand Jury who would quite properly "no bill" you. You would get your gun back and a quiet pat on the back from the officers.

Protecting ones self from a predator is your right, no matter how many legs the predator happens to have.

I am sure i don't need to tell you that there a lot of different states in America that have different laws when it comes to the use of lethal force. I don't think its as straightforward as you imply. I am sure their are people in American jails that thought they had justifiable used lethal force. The same cop that said to shoot him would be denying it if the shooting went wrong. PS. You could at least end up with very little money if it goes trough the courts even if you win the case.

[locutus]

Originally Posted by manta

I am sure i don't need to tell you that there a lot of different states in America that have different laws when it comes to the use of lethal force. I don't think its as straightforward as you imply. I am sure their are people in American jails that thought they had justifiable used lethal force. The same cop that said to shoot him would be denying it if the shooting went wrong. PS. You could at least end up with very little money if it goes trough the courts even if you win the case.

Which all comes down to:

WHEREVER YOU LIVE, LEARN THE LAWS!

[manta]

Originally Posted by axxe55

yes i was wondering the same thing. does that include a gun? because one of your previous posts said the homeowner stabbed the intruder?

He used a knife because he didn't have a gun. The point is that just the same as America a person has the right to defend himself with any weapon he can get his hands on. It has to be proportional to the threat if someone hits you a slap then killing him wouldn't be proportional. If he was coming at you with a knife then using lethal force to defend yourself would be reasonable force.

The big difference in the UK is that self defence is not seen as a good reason for acquiring a firearm. But if you have one and used it to safe the life of yourself or family then that would be proportional force.

[opaww]

My thoughts is you should pack up and move here

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by manta

I am sure i don't need to tell you that there a lot of different states in America that have different laws when it comes to the use of lethal force. I don't think its as straightforward as you imply. I am sure their are people in American jails that thought they had justifiable used lethal force. The same cop that said to shoot him would be denying it if the shooting went wrong. PS. You could at least end up with very little money if it goes trough the courts even if you win the case.

Originally Posted by locutus

Which all comes down to:

WHEREVER YOU LIVE, LEARN THE LAWS!

Manta, yes different states do have different laws regarding using deadly force in defence of your life or property. but as Locutus said learn the laws of the state you live in. if we don't like the laws of the state we live in, we can always move to another that has much better laws. many states are taking huge steps forward in giving power and rights back to the law abiding citizen and taking them away from the criminals. in Texas, if you shoot or kill an intruder and it's deemed justifiable homicide, the intruder or his family have no legal recourse in being able to sue you due to the Castle Law. not all states have that provision though.

[Rarity]

Here in Maryland the Castle Doctrine exists, along side a major of states.

Castle Doctrine, Castle Law, OR Defense of Habitation Law. As known as, "Make My Day Law"

Basically, It is a justifiable homicide to kill to prevent a felony by force or surprise.