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Old 07-20-2013, 05:43 PM   #21
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definition of thug: noun, hoodlum or ruffian. a tough or violent gangster.

nothing is determined by race or color of skin, but their actions. their actions IMO would make them a thug, not the color of their skin.
agreed! but what defines a "gang?" i think generally, it is considered to be a groups that comes together to commit crimes or invoke terror on others.

this kid was in a group committing a crime...sounds like a gang to me...thus, he is as potentially a "thug" as trayvon. i'm NOT saying he is...i'm saying it looks like he COULD be.

i'm with you...actions is what determines this label...breaking into cars is enough to merit the possibility that this kid was a "thug."
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I think I said that. Let me check.....yup, I did.
fair enough, my mistake.
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agreed! but what defines a "gang?" i think generally, it is considered to be a groups that comes together to commit crimes or invoke terror on others.

this kid was in a group committing a crime...sounds like a gang to me...thus, he is as potentially a "thug" as trayvon. i'm NOT saying he is...i'm saying it looks like he COULD be.

i'm with you...actions is what determines this label...breaking into cars is enough to merit the possibility that this kid was a "thug."
gang is more like a slang term to describe the group doing the criminal acts.
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this kid was in a group committing a crime...sounds like a gang to me...thus, he is as potentially a "thug" as trayvon. i'm NOT saying he is...i'm saying it looks like he COULD be.
That's a fair point - up to the moment when his friends all run away and then it's just him and the shooter?

The reason I mention the differences in these cases, and I believe what struck the OP as well, is that even with a (much) more suspect verdict in the Christopher Cervini shooting, nobody called the black shooter a racist, the prosecutor was not replaced, the police officers were not pressured and there was no federal attention and no whining from this same President about how gun laws need to be changed to prevent another shooting of a 16 yr. old. No protests. No national interviews of the grieving parents. Nothing.

Oh yeah - the black shooter? He was charged with manslaughter. I'm guessing that is because there was no political pressure to bring a murder charge.

I hope somebody asks Obama why he was silent in 2009 about this white boy....and why Holder was not then up in arms about gun violence, etc. Those questions should be fearlessly asked, IMHO.
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That's a fair point - up to the moment when his friends all run away and then it's just him and the shooter. I accept the verdict but I'll say it stinks based on what is reported. On the other hand, the verdict on the GZ matter - based on what's been reported - isn't just palatable, it's plainly correct.

The reason I mention it, and I believe what struck the OP as well, is that even with a (much) more suspect verdict in the Christopher Cervini shooting, nobody called the black shooter a racist, the prosecutor was not replaced, the police officers were not pressured and there was no federal attention and no whining from this same President about how gun laws need to be changed to prevent another shooting of a 16 yr. old. No protests. No national interviews of the grieving parents. Nothing.

Oh yeah - the black shooter? He was charged with manslaughter. I'm guessing that is because there was no political pressure to bring a murder charge.

I hope somebody asks Obama why he was silent in 2009 about this white boy....why Holder was not then up in arms about gun violence, etc. It's a question that should be asked, IMHO.
yes i agree. those questions need to asked and we are by God due and owed answers. but those answers will never come. their silence speaks volumes. it further proves the point that not only is our present administration two-faced and hypocritical, they are about an agenda on gun control and not stopping violence.

never let a crisis go to waste, if it can help further your agenda. Obama.
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That's a fair point - up to the moment when his friends all run away and then it's just him and the shooter?

The reason I mention the differences in these cases, and I believe what struck the OP as well, is that even with a (much) more suspect verdict in the Christopher Cervini shooting, nobody called the black shooter a racist, the prosecutor was not replaced, the police officers were not pressured and there was no federal attention and no whining from this same President about how gun laws need to be changed to prevent another shooting of a 16 yr. old. No protests. No national interviews of the grieving parents. Nothing.

Oh yeah - the black shooter? He was charged with manslaughter. I'm guessing that is because there was no political pressure to bring a murder charge.

I hope somebody asks Obama why he was silent in 2009 about this white boy....and why Holder was not then up in arms about gun violence, etc. Those questions should be fearlessly asked, IMHO.
all good points. i was talking mostly of the actual case, not the media/political involvement. when it comes to that, i agree with you completely.

i think the media is fed by the only true evil color for the most part...GREEN. they want the best ratings and the most mags sold....get that money. add that to a healthy gun hatred from most of the media and you can understand the appeal of the zimmerman case to the media. maybe if we can incite a riot as well...that is great news for a good while....

this is just my feelings, but....i think obama got wrapped up in the zimmerman case for two main reasons: to try and further his gun control agenda and to please his liberal constituents. mentioning a case of a black man killing a white teen in self defense does NOTHING to further either of these goals.

i honestly think that for whatever reason, out of all of obama's failures as president....that the gun control loss really stung. i think he saw the zimmerman case as an opportunity to come after concealed handgun licenses...which have possibly been on his radar for awhile now. perhaps zimm's "not guilty" verdict was really an inconvenient kink in this plan?
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yes i agree. those questions need to asked and we are by God due and owed answers. but those answers will never come. their silence speaks volumes. it further proves the point that not only is our present administration two-faced and hypocritical, they are about an agenda on gun control and not stopping violence.

never let a crisis go to waste, if it can help further your agenda. Obama.
dang, you basically said what i said in the post above , axxe. just shorter and more to the point....lmao...well done.
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The Left has used the minority groups to embarrass the American majority to surrender with a fight. America armed and prepared to stop the "Barbarians" of the world from attacking our shores. Americans did not see Liberal educators, Media and political parties out flanking their defenses.

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Great posts, Rocky & Axxe.

Never any outrage from this Administration or the Left over the hundreds of black-on-black homicides that occur every year in our cities. But families still mourn their dead, and innocent bystanders, even young kids, are caught in the crossfire of urban violence. Isolated incidents like the Zimmerman case are an opportunity for black activists and liberal whites to blame all the problems of urban communities on white racism. It's been the default cop-out for too long and all it does is stir up hatred and resentment from all sides.

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