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Old 01-24-2013, 11:09 PM   #21
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I think Joe "The Mushmouth" Biden's anti-gun record speaks for itself.

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Joe Biden, the running mate of Barack Obama, is one of the most anti gun rights politicians in Government, although Biden falsely tries to pass himself off as pro gun:
The Brady Campaign endorses Joe Biden, saying, “Senator Biden has been a consistent supporter of the Brady Campaign,” and “a key player in the fight for the federal assault weapons ban that passed in 1994″
Biden introduced an “assault weapons” ban in Congress five years before the Clinton gun and magazine ban was imposed. In 1989, Biden’s Senate Bill 1970 proposed to ban the Colt AR-15 and eight similar firearms as “assault weapons,” and authorize the Secretary of the Treasury (in reality, BATF) and the Attorney General to recommend to Congress any other firearms, regardless of type, to be banned as “additional assault weapons.”
Biden was instrumental in the passage of the 1994 Clinton gun and magazine ban. Biden reiterated his support for the ban—and, in fact, took credit for authoring it—in response to a question at the CNN & YouTube debate earlier this year (see the video below). Biden voted for the ban on a stand-alone vote in 1993, and voted to extend the ban in 2004 as an amendment to the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.” He also included a renewal of the ban in his crime bill last year, along with gun show restrictions.
Joe Biden’s S. 2237 proposes to renew the Clinton ban on roughly 200 makes and models of semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, and handguns on the basis of things like the shape of their grips, and on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, regardless of the kind of firearm in which they are used.
Biden voted against the law that prohibits lawsuits designed to bankrupt law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers. He also refused to sign the Congressional brief in Heller, and voted to confirm only one of the five justices who ruled in favor of the Second Amendment in Heller, yet he voted to confirm all four justices who voted against the Second Amendment in that case.
Simply put, Biden and Obama may very well be the most anti gun candidates this country has ever seen.
This guy would have all our guns if he could, including shotguns. Like most politicians he's just trying to take our eye off the ball by spouting a bunch of goofy crap, something he's expert at I might add.
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If they ban assault weapons, shotguns are next, along with 'sniper rifles'. The anti-gun nuts in America work hand in hand with the anti gun nuts in countries that have banned guns.

They'll say no one needs a tube that holds 6-8 rounds!!! That's WAAAYYY more than you need to shoot a deer.
Exactly righ about about shotguns and 'sniper rifles'. The only reason that they are not talking about 'sniper rifles' now is that they do not want the hunters up in arms.

A couple of decades ago some of the gun banners did bring up 'sniper rifles'. Their definition that they gave for these fit every single hunting rifle in existance.
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If they ban assault weapons, shotguns are next, along with 'sniper rifles'. The anti-gun nuts in America work hand in hand with the anti gun nuts in countries that have banned guns.

They'll say no one needs a tube that holds 6-8 rounds!!! That's WAAAYYY more than you need to shoot a deer.

The Federal government has had a 3 shot rule for ducks and doves ever since I can remember, and I go back a long way. I still have my shot guns and can hunt game other than waterfowl, with 5 or 6 shells in the magazine tube. I don't get your point.
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Hunting rifles are not in the race. They are going after "Black Rifles" sure they are. The rules will cover all semi-auto firearms. This will cover any self loading firearm.
The Democrats want to use the Leftist laws of Australia. Swinestiens law will ban all semi autos. Biden today said people should buy only Dbl. barrel shotguns. He means all semi auto shotguns will be banned.

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Hunting rifles are not in the race. They are going after "Black Rifles" sure they are. The rules will cover all semi-auto firearms. This will cover any self loading firearm.
The Democrats want to use the Leftist laws of Australia. Swinestiens law will ban all semi autos. Biden today said people should buy only Dbl. barrel shotguns. He means all semi auto shotguns will be banned.
That's exactly right, and before you know it, why not make it shotguns you have to muzzle load to boot. Hell, we should all have to defend ourselves with blunderbusses.
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really double ot buck wont? a 30 30 wont or a 30-06 wont? well placed shots from distance may be what instore on horseback back to the old west
double aught buck won't go through any armor for the most part,even soft armor,a 30-30 and 30-06 will go through soft armor and possibly military armor.I know the deer rifles and such could defeat body armor,I guess my way of thinking is that those kind of guns are usually long and scoped,and bolt action,nearly impossible to use in close quarters in a hurry with multiple shots,an AR-15/AK/Mini14 are pretty much the only weapons that could stop multiple armored invaders at a close range in a hurry.
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really see ive tested BUCKSHOT 00 on a wall say if im stading in the livin room and there a normal house wall and the kitchen is on the side of the wall if i no were you are at on the other side of the wall buckshot can penetrate threw the wall and kill a person on the side ive shot it and it did damage and went into the other wall.

i do understand your point as i have a mini 14 glad i bought all that ammo when i did but my 30 round clip failed broke now im down to 20 round and a 5 round clip

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Then what should I do with my lower Joe???, I was planning on using that as a home defense gun

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Sorry my fault, I will edit the post as I mean what is 'his' problem, if the shotgun is so much more effective, as that's what he seems to be implying.
Not to worry, cause he hasn't a clue about what he's implying, cause he's just Joe.
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