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Old 01-24-2013, 10:25 PM   #11
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I am going to do just as the vice president says,but only because I can't afford an AR-15 and I don't have a defensive long gun anymore since I traded off my 870 to get a Ruger American rifle for hunting season.This time I am thinking Mossberg of some kind like the 500.

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Old 01-24-2013, 10:34 PM   #12
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Sadly pausing. Waiting for the next nut job to start blowing people away with a shotgun saying Biden made me do it. What an idiot.

"But Biden warned it would be a "terrible mistake" to arm school staff. "The last thing we need to do is be arming school teachers and administrators" who may not have firearm training, he said."

That's about as stupid a statement as I've ever heard. "Hi Ms. Jones. Here's your new classroom, a nice supply of crayons, colored paper, books, .45mm HPs, and a 1911. Enjoy your class." God forbid a TEACHER not be able to learn how to use a firearm. They're TOO STUPID to take a class, but just smart enough to teach our kids. You sir, are a MORON!

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I am going to do just as the vice president says,but only because I can't afford an AR-15 and I don't have a defensive long gun anymore since I traded off my 870 to get a Ruger American rifle for hunting season.This time I am thinking Mossberg of some kind like the 500.
Look for a good used Remington 1100.
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I'm wondering, when they get around to banning shotguns errrr "assault scatterguns", will they cite shotguns' projectiles/pellets lack of ballistic traceability?

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If they ban assault weapons, shotguns are next, along with 'sniper rifles'. The anti-gun nuts in America work hand in hand with the anti gun nuts in countries that have banned guns.

They'll say no one needs a tube that holds 6-8 rounds!!! That's WAAAYYY more than you need to shoot a deer.
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So if a shotgun is so much more effective as a weapon then what's the problem?.
Mosin, you're too late cause anything over 6 in NY is already banned and that will include those previously grandfathered in.

RemFire, if you have to ask then you'll never understand. Americans become anxious when slimy dumb politicians tell us what guns to use and knowing they only eventually want to remove them from our possession like King George attempted to do. Mate we live in two different worlds.
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You have to wonder things....Like we all know that shotguns and pistols won't go through the military body armor,but AR's will,and that's the first thing they want to ban,makes you wonder the deep plots of the enemy within our borders.

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Mosin, you're too late cause anything over 6 in NY is already banned and that will include those previously grandfathered in.

RemFire, if you have to ask then you'll never understand. Americans become anxious when slimy dumb politicians tell us what guns to use and knowing they only eventually want to remove them from our possession like King George attempted to do. Mate we live in two different worlds.
Sorry my fault, I will edit the post as I mean what is 'his' problem, if the shotgun is so much more effective, as that's what he seems to be implying.
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You have to wonder things....Like we all know that shotguns and pistols won't go through the military body armor,but AR's will,and that's the first thing they want to ban,makes you wonder the deep plots of the enemy within our borders.
Shot placement may become more and more important.
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really double ot buck wont? a 30 30 wont or a 30-06 wont? well placed shots from distance may be what instore on horseback back to the old west

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I think Joe "The Mushmouth" Biden's anti-gun record speaks for itself.

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Joe Biden, the running mate of Barack Obama, is one of the most anti gun rights politicians in Government, although Biden falsely tries to pass himself off as pro gun:
The Brady Campaign endorses Joe Biden, saying, “Senator Biden has been a consistent supporter of the Brady Campaign,” and “a key player in the fight for the federal assault weapons ban that passed in 1994″
Biden introduced an “assault weapons” ban in Congress five years before the Clinton gun and magazine ban was imposed. In 1989, Biden’s Senate Bill 1970 proposed to ban the Colt AR-15 and eight similar firearms as “assault weapons,” and authorize the Secretary of the Treasury (in reality, BATF) and the Attorney General to recommend to Congress any other firearms, regardless of type, to be banned as “additional assault weapons.”
Biden was instrumental in the passage of the 1994 Clinton gun and magazine ban. Biden reiterated his support for the ban—and, in fact, took credit for authoring it—in response to a question at the CNN & YouTube debate earlier this year (see the video below). Biden voted for the ban on a stand-alone vote in 1993, and voted to extend the ban in 2004 as an amendment to the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.” He also included a renewal of the ban in his crime bill last year, along with gun show restrictions.
Joe Biden’s S. 2237 proposes to renew the Clinton ban on roughly 200 makes and models of semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, and handguns on the basis of things like the shape of their grips, and on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, regardless of the kind of firearm in which they are used.
Biden voted against the law that prohibits lawsuits designed to bankrupt law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers. He also refused to sign the Congressional brief in Heller, and voted to confirm only one of the five justices who ruled in favor of the Second Amendment in Heller, yet he voted to confirm all four justices who voted against the Second Amendment in that case.
Simply put, Biden and Obama may very well be the most anti gun candidates this country has ever seen.
This guy would have all our guns if he could, including shotguns. Like most politicians he's just trying to take our eye off the ball by spouting a bunch of goofy crap, something he's expert at I might add.
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