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Old 02-26-2014, 10:28 PM   #1
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Default barrel length- chamber or no chamber?

Ok, everything I've come across thus far says the chamber is included in the barrel length. I have an old winchester '97 that a previous owner cut down. Took it to the local auction yesterday, and they refused to sell it, said it was too short. Their gun "expert" says chamber doesnt count. Said he had a HLS officer look at it and say he wouldnt pass it. Can somebody clear this up for me, or where I can find it in the legal literature? Thanks.

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When the ATF measures a barrel they do it with the action closed. They drop a rod the minimum length down the barrel. If it fits entirely in the barrel without sticking out you are good. If it sticks out...you got problems.

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When the ATF measures a barrel they do it with the action closed. They drop a rod the minimum length down the barrel. If it fits entirely in the barrel without sticking out you are good. If it sticks out...you got problems.
this ^^^^^^

the person you were dealing with not measuring from the bolt face is an idiot. dont do business with idiots.
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the person you were dealing with not measuring from the bolt face is an idiot. dont do business with idiots.
Could not have said it better myself.
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Their gun guy's a freakin idiot. I'd love to get a hard copy of the literature, though, and shove it in his face.

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I try not to do business with stupid people. If he is an expert it must be in Airsoft or Paintball. Maybe he is a Call of Duty expert?

Go somewhere else.

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Lol, maybe. Or some dumbass from a pawn shop

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You wanted chapter and verse? You should have asked- here ya go-
http://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-2.pdf

In addition, the test is made with the action cocked so that the firing pin does not protrude from the bolt face. The dowel will be close to bore diameter so it does not measure across the bore, but straight up and down.

The one exception to this method is for a revolver. There a flat surface is placed across the forcing cone, and measurement made from muzzle to the end of the forcing cone.

PS- you met a dolt!

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That is a very easy solution to that measurement problem. I wonder how the ATF managed to think that up without help?

I was not aware there was even a minimum length for a revolver barrel. Or do you mean just to find out how long it is?

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