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Old 02-02-2013, 05:09 PM   #81
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Sooo any semi auto with a pistol grip?...

Well looks like its back to the old west!






AWESOME! I can shoot government people off my front porch no
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http://www.gunlaws.com/consult.htm
(Alan Korwin)

Well, if Alan Korwin is correct, all the minutiae is of no consequence. If passed, all semi-automatic long guns would be banned since all long guns, by her definition, have a 'pistol grip.’

Seemingly the only exclusion to 'pistol grips’ is a pistol…which is banned if it has a 'second pistol grip.’

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http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=9a9270d5-ce4d-49fb-9b2f-69e69f517fb4

Page 2
‘‘(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manu-
facture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
‘‘(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capac-
ity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
‘‘(i) A pistol grip.
‘‘(ii) A forward grip.

Page 4
‘‘(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that has any 1 of the following:
‘‘(i) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
‘‘(ii) A pistol grip.
‘‘(iii) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds.
‘‘(iv) The ability to accept a detachable magazine.
‘‘(v) A forward grip.
‘‘(vi) A grenade launcher or rocket launch-
er.
Page 3
‘‘(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
‘‘(i) A threaded barrel.
‘‘(ii) A second pistol grip.
‘‘(iii) A barrel shroud.
‘‘(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable
magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

Page 13
‘‘(46) The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumb- hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.

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http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/feinsteins-plan-bans-any-gun-with-a-grip/
A key gun law analyst who has published books on the issue of the Second Amendment and its rights and responsibilities for decades says the Feinstein gun ban bill is just exactly that, a gun ban bill.

Not, essentially, a plan to limit certain guns. Not a limit on the size of magazines. Not a plan for restrictions on those with certifiable mental instabilities, a ban on criminals’ access or a plan to encourage gun safety.


He said if the plan by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., is made law, “any semiautomatic firearm with uses a magazine – handgun, rifle or shotgun – equipped with a ‘pistol grip,’ would be banned.”

Alan Korwin is a nationally recognized expert resource on the issue of gun laws, and runs Bloomfield Press, which is the largest publisher and distributor of gun-law books in the country.

He explained, “That sounds like a limitation, but it is not. A pistol grip (on page 2) is defined (on page 13) as ‘a grip, a thumb-hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.’”

He said, “In other words, the gun list does not matter. It is a smokescreen designed to distract people from the true meaning of the bill. And it has done a magnificent job. It worked! Any semi-automatic firearm that exists, with anything on it you can grip, is banned. (There is a grandfather clause for old stuff.)

“The list is meaningless tripe. It is camouflage for the real purpose of the bill. When the president said he is not going to take away your guns, well, Feinstein’s bill puts the lie to that. Magazine size does not matter. Brand name does not matter. It doesn’t matter if it’s black. If you can grip it, it’s banned under this bill.”

The bill, in fact, states, “‘Pistol grip’ means … any … characteristic that can function as a grip.”

That definition follows on the bill’s specific reference that a “pistol grip” is a banned component.
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http://www.gunlaws.com/consult.htm
(Alan Korwin)

Well, if Alan Korwin is correct, all the minutiae is of no consequence. If passed, all semi-automatic long guns would be banned since all long guns, by her definition, have a 'pistol grip.’

Seemingly the only exclusion to 'pistol grips’ is a pistol…which is banned if it has a 'second pistol grip.’

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http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=9a9270d5-ce4d-49fb-9b2f-69e69f517fb4

Page 2
‘‘(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manu-
facture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
‘‘(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capac-
ity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
‘‘(i) A pistol grip.
‘‘(ii) A forward grip.

Page 4
‘‘(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that has any 1 of the following:
‘‘(i) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
‘‘(ii) A pistol grip.
‘‘(iii) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds.
‘‘(iv) The ability to accept a detachable magazine.
‘‘(v) A forward grip.
‘‘(vi) A grenade launcher or rocket launch-
er.
Page 3
‘‘(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
‘‘(i) A threaded barrel.
‘‘(ii) A second pistol grip.
‘‘(iii) A barrel shroud.
‘‘(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable
magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

Page 13
‘‘(46) The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumb- hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.

----------------------------

http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/feinsteins-plan-bans-any-gun-with-a-grip/
A key gun law analyst who has published books on the issue of the Second Amendment and its rights and responsibilities for decades says the Feinstein gun ban bill is just exactly that, a gun ban bill.

Not, essentially, a plan to limit certain guns. Not a limit on the size of magazines. Not a plan for restrictions on those with certifiable mental instabilities, a ban on criminals’ access or a plan to encourage gun safety.

He said if the plan by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., is made law, “any semiautomatic firearm with uses a magazine – handgun, rifle or shotgun – equipped with a ‘pistol grip,’ would be banned.”

Alan Korwin is a nationally recognized expert resource on the issue of gun laws, and runs Bloomfield Press, which is the largest publisher and distributor of gun-law books in the country.

He explained, “That sounds like a limitation, but it is not. A pistol grip (on page 2) is defined (on page 13) as ‘a grip, a thumb-hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.’”

He said, “In other words, the gun list does not matter. It is a smokescreen designed to distract people from the true meaning of the bill. And it has done a magnificent job. It worked! Any semi-automatic firearm that exists, with anything on it you can grip, is banned. (There is a grandfather clause for old stuff.)

“The list is meaningless tripe. It is camouflage for the real purpose of the bill. When the president said he is not going to take away your guns, well, Feinstein’s bill puts the lie to that. Magazine size does not matter. Brand name does not matter. It doesn’t matter if it’s black. If you can grip it, it’s banned under this bill.”

The bill, in fact, states, “‘Pistol grip’ means … any … characteristic that can function as a grip.”

That definition follows on the bill’s specific reference that a “pistol grip” is a banned component.
So does that mean the 1911 will be banned?????
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My mini-14 doesn't have a black stock anymore since I painted it OD green. And I repaced the flash hider with a suppressor. Legal now?
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My mini-14 doesn't have a black stock anymore since I painted it OD green. And I repaced the flash hider with a suppressor. Legal now?
No because it has an evil detachable magazine
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So does that mean the 1911 will be banned?????
Does a 1911 have a grip? Then, yes, it's banned. Basically, if it has a magazine and you can hold it, it's banned.
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Does a 1911 have a grip? Then, yes, it's banned. Basically, if it has a magazine and you can hold it, it's banned.
Well that sucks balls. So pretty much every pistol without a revolving cylinder will be banned?
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Well that sucks balls. So pretty much every pistol without a revolving cylinder will be banned?
Unless they consider the cylinder a "detachable magazine" because it can be opened.
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