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clip11 05-19-2010 08:13 PM

Baltimore Gun Control
 
There is this policy on gun control in Baltimore where police are allowed to do surprise checks on the homes of known felons searching for guns. I get a bad feeling about this. What about this, do you think its a good idea?

skullcrusher 05-19-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by clip11 (Post 287316)
There is this policy on gun control in Baltimore where police are allowed to do surprise checks on the homes of known felons searching for guns. I get a bad feeling about this. What about this, do you think its a good idea?

On known felons? Felons of any kind, including non-violent felons with no history of using a firearm to commit the crime for which they were convicted? Is just cause needed, or do they just pull a name from a hat? Are these felons still on parole or probation?

How about posting a link to the law or maybe quote the law as written. I would need more information before I decide how I feel. Also, I would not be surprised if Baltimore is not the only place where a similar law is in place.

Dzscubie 05-19-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by clip11 (Post 287316)
There is this policy on gun control in Baltimore where police are allowed to do surprise checks on the homes of known felons searching for guns. I get a bad feeling about this. What about this, do you think its a good idea?

I don't see this as being real can you give me a little more information on where you read or heard about this policy? Police can't just search a home without a warrant and to get a warrant they have to have probable cause. Now if a felon is on parole then his parole officer can do home checks and some states allow searches, but that is state by state.

clip11 05-19-2010 08:53 PM

I read it in the Detroit free press on Sunday. It talked about what Baltimore was doing to reduce gun crimes. This isnt the exact article I read but it talks about the same thing:

Targeting guns to reduce violent crime - CSMonitor.com

robocop10mm 05-19-2010 09:20 PM

Searches w/o Probable Cause will get tossed eventually. Unfortunately, some folks are of the mentality that "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride". These people will pursue cases they know will eventually get thrown out just to get some political mileage.

Just because someone is a Felon does not give anyone the right to search their residence, car or person. Being on Parole does not change that fact much. They may be able to force a UA, but searching the hosue because he "might" have a gun will not sit well with the SCOTUS.

The SCOTUS has already ruled that convicted Felons cannot be prosecuted for failing to register a firearm because that would be a 5th Amendment violation (self incrimination) as they would have to admit to a crime to even register the firearm.

winch 05-19-2010 09:28 PM

The thugs in Baltimore already have guns. The law abiding folk cannot legally carry to protect themselves (with rare exception). Gee, the cops will protect me though! (sarcasm intended).

skullcrusher 05-19-2010 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by clip11 (Post 287337)
I read it in the Detroit free press on Sunday. It talked about what Baltimore was doing to reduce gun crimes. This isnt the exact article I read but it talks about the same thing:

Targeting guns to reduce violent crime - CSMonitor.com

Ok, first of all the Detroit Free Press is a far cry from being the Christian Science Monitor. When I was in college, the C.S. Monitor was the only media source that was allowed to be used for a reference in Poly Sci courses. In fact, several PS classes required the student to subscribe to the CSM.

I am posting the same link, but from page one.

Targeting guns to reduce violent crime - CSMonitor.com

I may have missed something, but nowhere does the article say that the police are invading felons residences in search of illegal guns without a warrant. The story talks of Gun Task Forces who are targeting known gun related felons over some other crime violatons in an attempt to quell the murder and attempted murder rates. In other words, the 15 year old with a few bags of weed is gonna run, but the experienced "...baggy pants with no belt and a Glock shoved down there guy will just try to walk away because he knows how the police operate..."

ALSGUN 05-19-2010 10:24 PM

I would have to see more about these laws before commenting, however, gun control of any kind usually acts to control the use and ownership of guns by law abiding citizen. We all know that criminals don't care or abide by the gun control laws.

laynejc 05-24-2010 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ALSGUN (Post 287389)
I would have to see more about these laws before commenting, however, gun control of any kind usually acts to control the use and ownership of guns by law abiding citizen. We all know that criminals don't care or abide by the gun control laws.

if only politicians knew this!

pandamonium 05-24-2010 03:37 PM

Polititians DO know this. We all know gun control has NOTHING to do with reducing crime. We all know the stats too, gun regs up, crime up,- gun regs down, crime down.Our Gov will NEVER be able to deal with crime and criminals because they are too afraid to NOT be POLITICALY CORRECT!
It really sucks though when convicted felons have more rights than law abiding citizens.


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