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Old 03-21-2014, 01:38 AM   #1
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Just wanted to pass along this local battle:

If you want to support the 2nd, here is the link:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-the-shooting-ranch-gun-range

Short Summary

On Jan 10th, 2014 we were served with a lawsuit from the City of Creedmoor Tx. In a clear violation of Texas HB 677 (aka The Range Protection Act) the plantiffs seek to perminantly close our gun range. Our business land use pre-dates the City of Creedmoor's annexation and we feel that Austin shooters need a safe place to shoot.

What We Need & What You Get

Funds to assist in our legal battle.
Funds to help cover carrying costs while we remain closed.
Donors will receive dollar for dollar store credit, if and when we reopen.
The Impact

This is Texas. If we cannot shoot firearms on a very rural 112 acres, when state law clearly states in many different statues that we can, then case law will be established and gunranges everywhere will start to close.

Cities everywhere are watching our case to determine if they can violate the 2nd ammendment rights of gun ranges and their patrons everywhere.
Your assistance shows your support for landowner's rights, and well as the 2nd ammendment rights of citizens everywhere.
Other Ways You Can Help

Some people just can’t contribute, but that doesn’t mean they can’t help:

Let the city of Creedmoor know that you plan to boycott their businesses unless the suit is dropped. Richard Crandal, City Secretary 512-243-6700 or CityOfCreedmoor@att.net
Help us organize political support through other government agencies and political figures. Margaret GomezTravis County, Texas Attorney General, Us Dept of Justice, ACLU or if you may have ties to any high ranking officials who can help in any way. Our email is centexhuntclub@gmail.com if you would like to contact us.

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I'm sorry, but this was an ill conceived, poorly executed endeavor. I stopped by shortly after they closed and found the set up to be completely inadequate. The berms were no higher that 6-7 feet tall. The neighbors had bullets landing in their yards, houses and probably cars. It will be an uphill battle now that the damage is done.

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I'm sorry, but this was an ill conceived, poorly executed endeavor. I stopped by shortly after they closed and found the set up to be completely inadequate.
i've been following this since the range opened and will cry no tears for the owners.

i've built firing ranges. When the owners of a firing range do not own the property to the maximum range of the weapons being fired the berms must be very high. Shooters must be briefed not to fire over the berms. Even then close in ricochets will often send bullets zinging over the berm.

That range re-opened in defiance of local authorities who had shut it down. They invited their buds and had a shooting extravaganza that resulted in judge ordering the range closed a few days later.

IMO: The owners of that range are unconcerned with the safety of their neighbors. Bullets were hitting buildings 3/4 mile from the range.

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Meanwhile, John Gray, who lives and operates a contracting business adjacent to the range, said stray bullets have struck buildings on his property since the range opened.

Gray's sister, Mary Tristan, said gunfire is not uncommon for the area but the day the range reopened relatives hunting doves behind her property could hear bullets whizzing near their heads.

The Shooting Ranch sits about three-fourths of a mile from Tristan's and Gray's properties.
http://www.burlesonstar.net/texasnews/ci_24891901

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/local/judge-shuts-down-creedmoor-gun-range/ncn5k/
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I'm sorry, but this was an ill conceived, poorly executed endeavor. I stopped by shortly after they closed and found the set up to be completely inadequate. The berms were no higher that 6-7 feet tall. The neighbors had bullets landing in their yards, houses and probably cars. It will be an uphill battle now that the damage is done.
I understand that position completely.

I went out after the were shut down and they had increased the height to what looked like a safe berm.

The neighbors alleged bullets astray, I will hold judgment until the courts figure it out.

I wouldn't support an unsafe establishment that would hurt gun rights or act reckless.

I just hope this turns out for the better.
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The neighbors are all up in arms (pun intended) at the propostition of having a gun range in their back yards. These are the same folks who believe they have a right to hear NOTHING but crickets from their front porches.

I have deflected several calls related to this. One guy said he found a bullet lodged ini his garden hose and wanted us to come retrieve it. I pointed out that if we did so, it would be next to impossible for them to have the bullet for trial. I gave him instructions for documentation and preservation. Damned attorneys want us to do their job for them. I don't think so.

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