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Old 04-12-2011, 08:34 PM   #31
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F#*k sporting purposes. The second amendment is to protect us from them, its not about goose hunting (although its a pertinent point). Politicians have simply said "sporting purpose" long enough for the general populace to believe it. It disgusts me there are bans at all.
BATFE. MORE little yellow cowards we could do without.

I thought we were trying to de-fund them?
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:33 AM   #32
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I read the NRA article and the most recent article from the Blaze, this just does not go after the imports. They want to go after all!

Why does the ATF need your full name & mailing address for a commment on this matter?

Could Your Shotgun Soon be Outlawed? Maybe, If the ATF Has Its Way | The Blaze

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"One factor that jumps out from the current ATF study is that it differs from the Clinton gun ban in a critical way. The Clinton ban looked at guns and said if it could accept a high capacity magazine and had any 2 other characteristics then it was banned. Thus you could have a magazine and a pistol grip, or a magazine and night sights, and still be legal. Few people missed having a bayonet lug, and grenade launchers and grenades had essentially been banned from civilian hands since the NFA became law in 1934. The current study says that any ONE item on a list, including a magazine that holds more than five rounds or a place to attach a flashlight so you can see the burglar in your home, and the gun is banned.

So the problem doesn’t end with shotguns. The current study refers to the conclusions drawn in prior ATF studies of rifles in 1989 and 1998, and handguns in 1968. It also draws on the NFA and the GCA (Gun Control Act of 1968) to justify the “sporting purpose” test, and the narrow interpretation that the ATF places on the test. The justifications are all linked together, like a knitted sweater. Pull on the piece of yarn called “imported shotguns” and you find when it’s unraveled enough that you’re tugging on the “domestic shotguns” yarn. Only now the “imported rifle” bit of yarn is hanging loose, just begging for someone to tug on it. Unravel that a bit and you reach “domestic rifles.” A similar bit of unraveling is likely to happen with the piece of yarn labelled “handgun.”

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ANY government agency which does not understand

"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED." needs to be de-funded.

Defund BATFE. Do it now.

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From what I have been digging, alot of the organizations, i.e. GOA, NRA, NSSF, etc. have been sending letters to BATF on the shotgun issue.

To me this is same as the EPA and their push for Cap & Trade issue!

President Obama, said if he cannot legislative it, he will bypass Congress and regulate it!

This is not imports! How many American made shotgun's have the pistol? How many shotguns can carry more than 5 rounds in the tube? This is a ruse to ban shotgun that do not meet their terms!

I still have the old school shotguns, nothing modified except choke on the bird gun!

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The land of the free and the home of the brave is being taken over by

cowards.

They piss on the graves of our honored dead, who bought our Bill of Rights

with their blood.

ATF is a sham. Laden with PC pencil-pushers with yellow streaks up their
backs a foot wide.

BARACK OBAMA, YOU ARE A PUSHER OF COWARDICE!(that's "bravery challenged"

for you fed types...) Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln,Theodore and

Franklin Roosevelt,Eisenhower, Truman, and Wilson are flipping over in

their graves like pinwheels over the weak-spined policies you've embraced as a world leader. You sir, are a disgrace, to

this great nation, and, furthermore, to Kenya, which spawned you.

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Responses to the shotgun study are posted on the BATFE website.

http://www.atf.gov/about/foia/shotgun-study-responses/0306-shotgun-study-responses.pdf

All US regulatory agencies post the comments.

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