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Old 06-14-2017, 12:03 AM   #31
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I think you are incorrect in your assumption that information posted in these forums (highlighted above) are not public. If a person came in here, paid for a premium membership, and built posts meant to curry favor, he or she could gain access to the information in those forums.

If, for instance, there were certain posts, in the private forums, that were admission of illegal activities, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy.

Lets say, as a hypothetical, someone on one of the private forums were posting child porn. As I understand it, and I could be wrong, A law enforcement officer who was a member of the "private forums" and witnessed the activity would have a legal duty to report the posts, and no warrant would be necessary, to gather evidence, as the post were, indeed,
in a public space.

Do not think that anything you ever post on a forum on the world wide web has any viable claim to the privacy protections that you may expect in your home, your business or on your private server. If you say (type) it, be prepared to own it.
It's even easier than that. Anyone with access to those "private" forums could cut and paste the text anywhere else in the world. Tracing it back to its source is hardly a challenge for skilled investigators.
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They're everywhere, chief!
yes they are. I try not to break any laws in my day to day life, but when I do (As there are two types of person out there, those who have broken the law, and those that will at some point) I sure as hell don't admit to it, or brag about it here. Or any other forum I'm a member of.
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if anything, whatever a person posts on forum or social media, at the very least gives them probable cause to gain search warrants. and if there is anything that could lead to possible criminal charges, it can become evidence against that person who posted it.

and more than that, employers are watching social media more and more these days. more than one person has been fired or denied employment for things they posted on social media.

once it's out there on the interwebs, it's out there for just about anyone ot see.
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Thanks Kfox. I expect there would have to more evidence than a video posted on social media to issue a warrant from the court. The video would carry no more credence than a movie.
The Constitutional rights of the accused would have been violated. There is an important part of this missing?
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The post on social media must be able to prevail over the right assured by the 4th Amendment. This was added to the Bill Of Rights due to the arrest and home invasions by the British soldiers.
The 4th Amendment rights of illegal search and seizure is very nebulous. It is often used to stop over reach by courts and police.

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Thanks Kfox. I expect there would have to more evidence than a video posted on social media to issue a warrant from the court. The video would carry no more credence than a movie.
The Constitutional rights of the accused would have been violated. There is an important part of this missing?
There was. 2 stints in Juvie for drug possession, which was sealed, and a 5 year stint upstate for possession of hydrocodones under a name that was nor his, along with the fact that no one was keeping an eye on the kid, along with a ton of calls to CPS from his neighbors, one of which for the kid wandering around the trailer park in just a diaper in the middle of December of the year prior.

The other parties viewed in the video had priors as well, one of them for 1st degree sodomy on a 9 YO boy. Him even being in the house was an automatic back to jail, if the other guy's son was there. I heard a rumor that one party had an active warrant out of Jamestown NY, but never could confirm it.

the search of the house turned up an "Arsenal" of 3 rifles, 4 shotguns, and one pistol, as well as Percocets, Vicodin, bags of weed meth, and heroin, 2 bongs, and 3 bowls, from what I heard second hand, as well as some things so vile I will not post them in an open forum.

this also happened in NY, where PC is something as small as "your car sounded a bit too loud, and you are on a highway some folks use to transport drugs, so now, i need to search your car, as it's PC."

IOW, a state where you have no rights.

I know a few of the officers involved, and they are the last people to want to trample on someone's liberties, but even they have to draw the line somewhere. Doing something like this, even if it's no more than powdered sugar, in front of a kid, with a known Chester in the house, in the same room as said kid, someone is going to get busted, especially after putting it out in a video on SM.

and yes, possession or sale of something made to look like drugs in that state is a crime, as is knowingly endangering your child. I had to sit pn the mother and step-dad to help ensure the police got there first. and I can't say I blame them on that one.

there's still a bit more to it, but I'd rather we keep that private. All I'm going to say is all but one person in that room sits somewhere between pond scum and the white stuff that forms in the corner of your mouth when you are really, really thirsty. this was one of the few times in my life, that I could have killed someone, and NOT lost sleep over it, which says a lot coming from me.

And yes, all parties involved p!$$ed positive for opiods.
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That statement is absurd and shows a gross misunderstanding of the truth.

I am a Democrat and a progressive and I care a hell of a lot about the Constitution. I swore to protect and defend it from all enemies, foreign and domestic over 40 years ago and I have not renounced that pledge. There are tens of millions more like me. I love my country dearly, just not your vision of it.

You think you have a monopoly on the truth, but I assure you, you do not.
Then you are the exception! This is not my 'opinion', it is fact backed by history. Go back and study what Woodrow Wilson and 'friends' did and just look at the FDR administration and what Obama did for the last 8 years.
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That is possible, but not probable. But since I have been acting completely within the law the entire time I have had my FFL that would not apply here. The real reason is becasue I have been VERY supportive of the constitutional carry proposal here in Alabama. I have been on the 'air' via talk radio and I have called and raised a big stink with the State FOP and the State Sheriff's Association for lobbing against this legislation. The two times I became very involved in CO I was inspected and the inspectors admitted it was becasue I was active in the 2nd A activities. Funny how that works!!
TY for taking on these liberal police groups. MANY down here are wary of walking that fine line.
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TY for taking on these liberal police groups. MANY down here are wary of walking that fine line.
You are welcome!
I have been active in this area for MANY years and three states. As the song says, "I am older now and still running against the wind" It nearly cost me my job and pension in the mid 90's. I just think that we, who took the oath, to 'protect and preserve the Constitution of the United States', should make that our PRIMARY duty, not our secondary duty. And as I have said before, LEO's MUST consider themselves CITIZENS FIRST and LEO's second, if not they run the risk of just being government 'agents' and going along to get along, which is not always in the 'citizens' best interest and often violates OUR rights addressed in the Constitution!
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