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Old 05-17-2013, 11:16 PM   #161
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Certainly nothing wrong with a large protest! But this guys idea sucks! He is a complete idiot and give the libertards more ammunition to attempt to shoot the 2nd Amendment in the foot. He is playing right in the Obama Administrations hands! They would like nothing better than paint this as a radical movement by the gun owners to overthrow the American Government! With the idea of "Armed" is where I draw the line! As I stated a mass controlled protest to make a point (unarmed) I have no problem with that. We have a right to do that! But at the present we won the last attack on our Second Amendment except for the socialist states of Connecticut, New York, Colorado and other liberal "Democratic" controlled states. And we must certainly be prepared for more attacks on our Second Amendment. But this is one of the most lame ideas I have ever heard of and especially at this time.

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Old 05-17-2013, 11:22 PM   #162
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Let's see. In the last 40 years we've seen more than half of the 68 GCA repealed.

The Klinton AWB passed and then expired with no chance of being renewed.

We've gone from one state that allowed CCW without a permit to five.

The number of "shall issue" states has gone from zero to around 40. The number of states with reciprocity has gone from zero to over 40. Make my day laws have passed over half the states. Those vicious AR-15 assault rifles are the number one seller in the market place.

But we're losing the battle. "THEY" are coming to take our guns away! LOCK 'N' LOAD

Sorry. I need for someone to 'splain that to me.
Won't dispute any of that... but in the mean time we've got fellow LAC gun owners in several states watching there rights get signed away...

Out here in the PNW... not much to worry about... but I'll calm down when CA, CO, NY, and NJ residents feel as secure in there liberty as I do in mine.

Umm... and I don't think anyone said "Lock n Load"... Least not the way you meant it.

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We beat Germany and Japan "because" they were standing Armies and because we NUKED the Japanese Emperor in to telling his people to accept occupation.

Had we not NUKED Japan... we'd still be trying to "pacify" that island nation.

There is no correlation between our success in WWII and the first Gulf War where we faced a uniformed enemy, and our subsequent failures to find victory over any indigenous population we've tried to subdue.

Invading Armies have never, can not now, and will never be able to subdue any indigenous population unless that population chooses to submit. PERIOD.

Now... Log into your little NSA data base... track my transmission... zoom in your satellite... and tell me what color shirt I'm wearing today!

Pull that off... and I might give your little "uber spy" tale some credence.

Let me know if you need Will Smith's phone number.

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We nuked Japan to prevent from killing every single last one of them, which the Marines were perfectly willing to do.

Call Iraq 2 and Afghanistan whatever you want, but our military is most definitely killing more of them than they are of our guys.

In a few years or so, you won't even have the opportunity to shoot at other human beings so I guess you feel the need to get your licks in while the getting's good.

With respect to your assertion that you can't be monitored, I find your disbelief disturbing. We tracked down and killed a man with no telephone or internet connection who never left his house on the other side of the world.

Run around in front of the President's house with your rifle, Tack. I am happy that the president's silly claims and policies were repudiated by both the legislature and judiciary, but apparently you feel the need to rub his nose in it. No amount of arguing is going to convince you it's a bad idea. You need to find that out for yourself. I, like a lot of other people across the country, will cross my fingers that the rest of us don't suffer the backlash from this stunt.
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Won't dispute any of that... but in the mean time we've got fellow LAC gun owners in several states watching there rights get signed away...

Out here in the PNW... not much to worry about... but I'll calm down when CA, CO, NY, and NJ residents feel as secure in there liberty as I do in mine.

Umm... and I don't think anyone said "Lock n Load"... Least not the way you meant it.

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What, no belief in states' rights?

If the local, state, or federal government makes a decision you disagree with, do you feel the need to show up on their doorstep with your rifle, laws be damned?

If you don't like the decision made by your representatives, then elect a better candidate and convince enough of the people around you to do the same to win the election. If you can't do that, then your recourse is the courts system. If you don't like that, then you can choose to break the law and suffer the consequences. To me, that behavior seems a lot like the notion that someone or entity is above the law, which is pretty much the demonstrated behavior of the government (which you want to distinguish yourself from by repeating the same behavior in a "principled" manner).

Your proposed solution to an out-of-control government? Let's act like them and show no respect for the law when we disagree with it. Yeah, that's how we'll get our country back on track- more law breaking.
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The feds could arrest this guy right now, for comments on this Alex Jones interview.

Problem is, if he gets arrested before the protest, lots more people will march on the capitol.

Me, were I the gov, I would pick him up quietly, and gitmo the guy.

I am all for freedom of speech, but listen to this guy. He is suggesting we overthrow the gov. I think that is too far. Run the Kenyan back to Africa, drive the communists out of offices, rain in big business, put the middle class back to work in good manufacturing jobs, tell the China tards to keep their Wal-Mart carp in their own country, and we build a great nation again.
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We nuked Japan to prevent from killing every single last one of them, which the Marines were perfectly willing to do.

Call Iraq 2 and Afghanistan whatever you want, but our military is most definitely killing more of them than they are of our guys.

In a few years or so, you won't even have the opportunity to shoot at other human beings so I guess you feel the need to get your licks in while the getting's good.

With respect to your assertion that you can't be monitored, I find your disbelief disturbing. We tracked down and killed a man with no telephone or internet connection who never left his house on the other side of the world.

Run around in front of the President's house with your rifle, Tack. I am happy that the president's silly claims and policies were repudiated by both the legislature and judiciary, but apparently you feel the need to rub his nose in it. No amount of arguing is going to convince you it's a bad idea. You need to find that out for yourself. I, like a lot of other people across the country, will cross my fingers that the rest of us don't suffer the backlash from this stunt.
Sure... our Marines were willing to kill every man, woman, and child in Japan Our government has paid me to carry a rifle and I'd have dumped my LT before I killed or allowed to be killed any unarmed "non combatant"... my Grandfather was a Marine, in the Pacific... saw action on several islands... and was a staunch supporter of the Nuke because of the American lives it saved.

Certainly our troops are killing far more enemy combatants than the casualties there are suffering... they always have... so what's your point? That does not mean they will ever be able to kill them faster than they breed and recruit... and the more the kill... the more recruits they "create". Seriously bud... you need to read a few book on military history and the nature of "insurgency".

In a few years I won't be able to shoot at other human beings... so I'm looking to get some now? Seriously? That's got to be one of the most ridiculous comments I've read to date. No one want's to see violence and no one... at least no one "sane" wan't to shoot at other human beings... comments like that make me question your age and maturity level.

Ohh... we tracked down Bin Ladden... you mean after we let him go 9 years earlier? That Bin Laden... Hmm... Ultimately the CIA and the Seals did there job but if you think 9 years to find the most wanted man on planet earth is an "admirable" effort... hahahaha.... wow.

Run around in front of the Presidents house... Yeah... and apparently the LAC American gun owner can't cross the street with a loaded gun and not have an ND... or an uncontrollable urge to "shoot someone"...

You know... a common liberal trait is know as "transference"... this occurs in people who can not imaging having enough self control or maturity to handle something as dangerous as a firearm... and because they do not believe they can handle it... they can not imagine anyone other that "Cops" being able to handle it... it's why they wan't to ban guns... it's a minor mental defect... and it's frightening how many 2A supporters here are "transferring" there insecurities on those who would choose to march.

As I've said many times... I guess we'll all just have to wait and see.

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Old 05-18-2013, 12:12 AM   #167
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What, no belief in states' rights?

If the local, state, or federal government makes a decision you disagree with, do you feel the need to show up on their doorstep with your rifle, laws be damned?

If you don't like the decision made by your representatives, then elect a better candidate and convince enough of the people around you to do the same to win the election. If you can't do that, then your recourse is the courts system. If you don't like that, then you can choose to break the law and suffer the consequences. To me, that behavior seems a lot like the notion that someone or entity is above the law, which is pretty much the demonstrated behavior of the government (which you want to distinguish yourself from by repeating the same behavior in a "principled" manner).

Your proposed solution to an out-of-control government? Let's act like them and show no respect for the law when we disagree with it. Yeah, that's how we'll get our country back on track- more law breaking.
There you go... I think you may be starting to get this whole "civil disobedience" thing...

I know... it's awful confusing... break the law, get arrested, what does that accomplish?

Go read up on the Civil Rights movement for your answer.

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We have had a number of armed marches in Raleigh. The marchers had no magazines or ammo. They marched, a few legislators spoke, and compared guns with the law enforcement that was on duty. Then the wind picked up and the skies turned grey. Then everyone went home. That is how the last armed march on Raleigh turned out.

But that was Raleigh PD and Wake county SD. They had no intentions of pushing anyone around. The police in Washington DC might not be as bright.
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There you go... I think you may be starting to get this whole "civil disobedience" thing...

I know... it's awful confusing... break the law, get arrested, what does that accomplish?

Go read up on the Civil Rights movement for your answer.

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If all that happens is they get arrested, then it is definitely a win for gun owners. But as I said, there are too many variables that could come into play. Most of them not faring well for LAC. I'm not totally against the idea. But the idea of what should happen or what is planned, is not what worries me. It's what could happen. It could be catastrophic for gun owners all across the land. And lord knows the media will spin it to try and demonize LAC as much as possible.

I admire your patriotic spirit. But the idea that this is just gonna be great for LAC/owners is a little naive.
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If all that happens is they get arrested, then it is definitely a win for gun owners. But as I said, there are too many variables that could come into play. Most of them not faring well for LAC. I'm not totally against the idea. But the idea of what should happen or what is planned, is not what worries me. It's what could happen. It could be catastrophic for gun owners all across the land. And lord knows the media will spin it to try and demonize LAC as much as possible.

I admire your patriotic spirit. But the idea that this is just gonna be great for LAC/owners is a little naive.
Anything worth accomplishing comes with a certain amount of risk.

Our nation has a long tradition of civil disobedience, arrest, recognition of injustice, and the overturning of unjust laws...

To my knowledge... This is the only tactic that has ever effectively overturned unjust laws... so again... If a bunch of guys want to tote rusty mosins into DC to get arrested... so be it.

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