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 04-09-2010, 02:52 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 237 |  Arizona House to vote on CCW Bill
Went to the House today. If Brewer goes for it, we'll join Alaska and Vermont as one of the only 3 states in the country.
Not quite sure how I feel about this, but we'll see what happens.
NRA-ILA :: Constitutional Carry Passes Arizona House, Awaits Governor
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| 04-09-2010, 04:00 AM | #2 | Winners!!! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bennignton, VT Posts: 4,446 Likes Given: 1
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Sweet!!! Loved living in AZ and love living in VT now!  | |
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| 04-09-2010, 06:15 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 481 |
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I understand what you mean, but I ultimately think it's a good thing. I get the safety aspect that Dem representative Steve Farley brings up in a recent interview:
"We wouldn't give people driver's licenses without requiring training or testing. Why would we give people the ability to carry a concealed weapon anywhere?" said Rep. Steve Farley, D-Tucson.
However, the state already allows people to open carry without testing and permits, so his point is not relevant in this case.
This is something that I'd be most interested in, and I wish Texas allowed it:
Permits also would be required to carry weapons in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol.
I don't drink and my work requires me to carry expensive photo equip in and out of bars late at night. I'd feel safer if I was able to CC during these times. Currently, you can't carry anywhere in TX that serves alcohol. I get the idea of "drunks and guns don't mix", but what about people like me that would not drink and carry? Just like I don't drink and drive... | |
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| 04-09-2010, 03:27 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 400 |
PA is a shall issue State. With no training or testing required to get a permit. It is also legal to carry in bars. I haven’t heard of any problems. Open carry is also legal, very few people do.
Has Texas changed there law. The last time I was there it was any place that sells alcohol? __________________ Death By Gun Control The Mother of All Stats
In the 20th Century, at least 170,000,000 people were murdered by their own governments -- more killed than by crime – more than killed by war.
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| 04-09-2010, 09:15 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: , No. Arizona Posts: 309 | House Passed It
This bill only needs the Governor's signature now to become law, or she can do nothing and it will become law anyway. I expect her to sign it next week.
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| 04-09-2010, 10:36 PM | #6 | Sic Semper Tyrannis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , The Mother Lode Posts: 18,437 |
Good luck. I'm rooting for Arizona's citizens. __________________
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| 04-09-2010, 11:02 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 237 |
I'm not opposed to it. Lord knows I won't tote any gun restriction signs, like... ever. But I was taught very strictly about firearms. Safety, knowledge, respect... those were drilled in my head. Its unsettling to think that any yahoo on the block can now carry a gun in his pocket.
Guess it just gives me a reason to stay armed  I already open carry, and have my CCW (for those discreet situations). I'm all for the shall issue laws. At least they require more initiative and force a bit more responsiblity.
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| 04-12-2010, 08:34 AM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 481 |
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PA is a shall issue State. With no training or testing required to get a permit. It is also legal to carry in bars. I haven’t heard of any problems. Open carry is also legal, very few people do.
Has Texas changed there law. The last time I was there it was any place that sells alcohol?
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Still can't carry around alcohol here in TX. It's a shame that you can be trusted to drive and not drink once you get a driver's license, but you can't be trusted to CC and not drink. I walk into establishments that serve alcohol every week, yet I only drink alcohol maybe 3 times per year. And if I had a CCW on me, I would not make that instance one of my few drinking dates... Just the same as I won't drink anything if I know I'll be driving. | |
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| 04-12-2010, 09:03 AM | #9 | Supporting Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Radcliff, Kentucky Posts: 3,507 |
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| 04-17-2010, 04:55 PM | #10 | Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Happy Jack, Arizona Posts: 43 |
In case you didn't notice, Brewer went for it. Constitutional Carry will be the law of Arizona in approximately 3 1/2 months.
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