Anyone have pro gun statistics?
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > General Firearms Forums > Legal and Activism > Anyone have pro gun statistics?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-21-2012, 11:31 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 20
Liked 2 Times on 1 Posts

Default Anyone have pro gun statistics?

I need help convincing my dad that firearms are really not dangerous IF utilized correctly and/or it's probably a lot safer to know how to use a firearm if the situation ever arises.

My dad is an engineer and can't argue with facts and figures. What pro gun statistics do you guys know of? I'm hoping if I can show to him that gun owners are safer he'll at least not kick me out for my purchase.

Quick Background:
I live at home with my staunchly anti gun father. I've always been interested in guns but was never able to obtain one because of age laws and lack of money until recently.

Last Friday I decided enough was enough, so I went to my local shop and bought a 10/22 Takedown. It's still at the shop due to the CA the ten day waiting period. Yet in one of the most spectacular examples of mistimings ever my dad finds out I bought a gun, and then hears about the Colorado shooting 20 minutes later.

My interest in firearms lies in their use as a tool and the concentration and skill needed to shoot. Even if I don't own a gun I think it's VERY important to know how to use them effectively, safely, and properly. After all they're just tools and knowledge is power.

Aside from that I very much so like the practice of target shooting. Aiming (consistently) requires a lot of focus, concentration and discipline and I really enjoy practicing those skills.

__________________
canyon289 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 07-21-2012, 11:51 PM   #2
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Zombiegirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Northwest,Indiana
Posts: 4,126
Liked 1816 Times on 994 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

I just browsed some .gov sites and they all say the leading cause of death by a firearm is suicide. I found one that said only .03 percent of people with a CCW license lost it due to a crime. The problem with finding good statistics for your argument is that the data for gun related crimes is not separated into self defense or legal vs. Illegally owned guns. I wish you the best of luck!

__________________
Zombiegirl is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2012, 11:53 PM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
gmaster456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 487
Liked 46 Times on 31 Posts
Likes Given: 246

Default

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH7tRP_EZ9w&feature=youtu.be

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3083618&page=1#.UAtATaPg98E
__________________
gmaster456 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2012, 11:56 PM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
kycol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,402
Liked 206 Times on 154 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombiegirl
I just browsed some .gov sites and they all say the leading cause of death by a firearm is suicide. I found one that said only .03 percent of people with a CCW license lost it due to a crime. The problem with finding good statistics for your argument is that the data for gun related crimes is not separated into self defense or legal vs. Illegally owned guns. I wish you the best of luck!
That's just what these ant-gun dummies don't get, those who get a ccw are law abiding. And the criminals don't give a damn about laws, and more laws aren't going to change that.
__________________
kycol is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 12:12 AM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
gmaster456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 487
Liked 46 Times on 31 Posts
Likes Given: 246

Default

Also, watch out for the term "gun related homcides" or something similar, as that number also includes justifiable homicides such as self defense shootings resulting in the death of the assailant. I think that was already covered though.

Congrats on the gun, welcome to the sport, and good luck!

__________________
gmaster456 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 12:23 AM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
CourtJester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: South of the thumb
Posts: 2,800
Liked 711 Times on 380 Posts
Likes Given: 48

Default

this is a good one


http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

__________________

I hope I shall possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man.
~George Washington


Last edited by CourtJester; 07-22-2012 at 12:28 AM.
CourtJester is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 01:05 AM   #7
bkt
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 6,973
Liked 1305 Times on 664 Posts
Likes Given: 151

Default

Another good one: http://www.gunfacts.info/

__________________
bkt is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 01:06 AM   #8
FAA licensed bugsmasher
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ScottA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Davenport,IA
Posts: 6,779
Liked 2144 Times on 1166 Posts
Likes Given: 776

Default

Back up your stats with these stories.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/BlogList.aspx?id=21

__________________

Scott

Quote:
If you're not representing Jesus in a way that makes people want to hang out with you, you're doing it wrong.
Quote:
Those who refuse to participate in politics shall be governed by their inferiors. -Plato
Regent Holdings What you need to know about silver, gold, and the economy.

Join the NRA
ScottA is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 01:38 AM   #9
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Is it possible that you could keep the gun at a friend or relative's house? If you are living with your Dad and it is your Dad's house, then you should respect his wishes and not keep anything at his house that he doesn's want there, be it a motorcycle, a pet, or even a gun. As far as using statistics to change his mind, I doubt that they will work. Once men your Dad's age have a certain mind set, it is difficult, if not impossible for them to change. I would hate to see you lose the gun, but that might be better than alienating your father. You only have your parents for a little while. My Dad passed away while I was still a young man. Work hard at getting your own place, then you can keep whatever you want.
cottontop

__________________
 
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 01:57 AM   #10
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
c3shooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Third bunker on the right,Central Virginia
Posts: 16,717
Liked 8881 Times on 3846 Posts
Likes Given: 1391

Default

Have to agree with Cottontop. More folks die from falling in bathtubs, but that is not what counts here- His house, his rules. Until you can say MY house, MY rules.......... While I obviously have different views from your Dad on guns, if you are living under his roof, you live under his rules.

__________________

What we have here is... failure- to communicate.

c3shooter is offline  
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Statistics on CCW vs Criminal Use of Guns Balota Legal and Activism 30 10-14-2012 06:32 PM
Vietnam Statistics MobileMarine The Club House 26 10-01-2011 03:00 PM
some statistics to tickle your ear saviorslegacy The Club House 7 01-18-2011 11:06 PM
I need access to statistics about the safety of having guns. rbranstner General Handgun Discussion 7 03-02-2009 04:15 PM