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CaseyChadwell · 01-02-2013, 05:49 PM

And blaming a firearm for deaths is like blaming a hammer for missing the nail when building a home and breaking your finger. Its not the tools fault for the actions it is forced to do, it is the operator's. I have never heard of a contractor banning hammers for breaking an employee's hand. I have heard of contractors not hiring idiots to do jobs where idiots don't belong. If someone is mentally ill and either homicidal or suicidal keep firearms locked up In the home away from said person. That fixes that part of it. Crack down on gun crime and the criminal and crime will lessen. Take guns away from lac and crime goes up...that's how it works.

chuckusaret · 01-02-2013, 06:24 PM

The oath taken by our fearless leaders means nothing they have never served or been placed in harms way, but most of all, as written, blocks their agenda. I first took the oath on Feb 8th 1953 and have taken it 6 additional times on reenlistment in the service and 4 times when elected to public office.

**Chainfire** · 01-02-2013, 07:20 PM

I took the oath in 1970 upon joining the Navy. As long as we have free and fair elections in this country, the only thing that will relase me of my promise is death.

The following year I once again swore, on a bible, to my wife, only death relieves me of that promise as well.

I take oaths deadly serious.

**1911love** · 01-03-2013, 02:52 AM

As people have stated here, we take oaths seriously. Some of our reps and POTUS do not. The diff is they have power to dissolve our protections, the average American doesn't have this power. If you take the oath and don't follow it it's TREASON in my book. What is the punishment for treason???

CaseyChadwell · 01-03-2013, 11:57 AM

I understand that the government has the power, but it's not supposed to be that way. The constitution and the bill of rights was written the way it was so the people had the power. When did Americans give that up?

**CrazedJava** · 01-03-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CaseyChadwell

I understand that the government has the power, but it's not supposed to be that way. The constitution and the bill of rights was written the way it was so the people had the power. When did Americans give that up?

Some people want to be ruled. You must know people that are perfectly comfortable letting others tell them what they should think.

Most people just want comfort and security. They'll take what they assume is easy in order to get it. Not everyone is a "rugged individualist".

I see this on both sides by the way. NOT picking on progressives.

**Chainfire** · 01-03-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CaseyChadwell

I understand that the government has the power, but it's not supposed to be that way. The constitution and the bill of rights was written the way it was so the people had the power. When did Americans give that up?

You haven't given up crap. We just finished a free and fair election. Your side just did not prevail, so you want to whine unconstituional? Bullshirt!

Mommy, I lost, so I am going to take my toys and go home........

**Mosin** · 01-03-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainfire

You haven't given up crap. We just finished a free and fair election. Your side just did not prevail, so you want to whine unconstituional? Bullshirt!

Mommy, I lost, so I am going to take my toys and go home........

No... More like you ignore constitutional violations because 'your side won'.

I highly doubt you said the same when Bush passed the patriot act.

CaseyChadwell · 01-03-2013, 04:25 PM

Calm down there big fella. I don't believe you were in the voting booth with me so you don't know who I voted for or why. In fact earlIer I saId I never voted along any party lInes. I vote for the person not the party. I never said we didn't have a fair and free election, I just said that the rights of Americans seem to be under attack. Is it ok if I state my opinion there big guy?

So, you can feel free to play with my toys all you want, I'll stay and play with ya so you can have cool toys to play with.

**locutus** · 01-03-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainfire

You haven't given up crap. We just finished a free and fair election. Your side just did not prevail, so you want to whine unconstituional? Bullshirt!

Mommy, I lost, so I am going to take my toys and go home........

Once again I call BULLSH!T

There was nothing free or fair about the Caliph buying the anointing with tax money.

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