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A5Mag12 08-12-2010 12:46 AM

All lead ammo outlawed in 90 days!
It will be if these folks get their way.

National Ban on Lead-based Ammunition, Fishing Tackle Sought to End Wildlife Poisoning

CA357 08-12-2010 02:21 AM

Well, they are correct that lead is deadly. ;)

dunerunner 08-12-2010 03:19 AM

Especially at muzzle velocity!! :D

falseharmonix 08-12-2010 03:54 AM

Well, the article says "hunting" ammunition.

So label it "Self-Defense" ammunition, and you're good to go :cool:

Bigcountry02 08-12-2010 10:05 PM

These left wing nuts want to stop lead and stop jobs as well! Idiots!

Everyone! Watch the Bills (now, during and after election) floating in Congress, the anticrowd will try and sneak this in any bill. Since are elected members do not read the legislation; except, for some who we all know that are not democrats.

Where is listing of hunting group, liberal lie as usual?

I did a search of the final petition sent to EPA and does not list this group, lists the California Condor!

The following site, states that "California hunters' group Project Gutpile are asking for the ban under the Toxic Substances Control Act, which regulates dangerous chemicals in the United States" ting++fishing

A5Mag12 08-12-2010 10:13 PM

This is not going to be decided in the halls of congress. It will be up to the head of the EPA. An anti hunting lady if I recall.

pandamonium 08-12-2010 11:38 PM

Just going for one step closer...

MGH 08-13-2010 01:53 AM

Would this effect price for standard practice ammo? Anything that isn't specifically self defense, for example .22 and bird shot are lead right? So will they have to be copper after this?
The argument for the anti-guners would say: lead plinking rounds shot in the wilderness could contaminate wildlife. Right?

pandamonium 08-13-2010 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by A5Mag12 (Post 330625)
This is not going to be decided in the halls of congress. It will be up to the head of the EPA. An anti hunting lady if I recall.

The EPA has the authority to pass whatever laws they want without going through Congress?

Bigcountry02 08-25-2010 10:53 PM

This is an update from Ammoland

EPA Considering Ban on Traditional Ammunition

NEWTOWN, Conn --( All Gun Owners, Hunters and Shooters:

With the fall hunting season fast approaching, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under Lisa Jackson, who was responsible for banning bear hunting in New Jersey, is now considering a petition by the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) – a leading anti-hunting organization – to ban all traditional ammunition under the Toxic Substance Control Act of 1976, a law in which Congress expressly exempted ammunition.

If the EPA approves the petition, the result will be a total ban on all ammunition containing lead-core components, including hunting and target-shooting rounds. The EPA must decide to accept or reject this petition by November 1, 2010, the day before the midterm elections.

Today, the EPA has opened to public comment the CBD petition. The comment period ends on October 31, 2010.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) — the trade association for the firearms, ammunition, hunting and shooting sports industry – urges you to submit comment to the EPA opposing any ban on traditional ammunition. Remember, your right to choose the ammunition you hunt and shoot with is at stake.

The EPA has published the petition and relevant supplemental information as Docket ID: EPA-HQ-OPPT-2010-0681.

If you would like to read the original petition and see the contents of this docket folder:

In order to go directly to the ‘submit a comment’ page for this docket number:

NSSF urges you to stress the following in your opposition:

•There is no scientific evidence that the use of traditional ammunition is having an adverse impact on wildlife populations.
•Wildlife management is the proper jurisdiction of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services and the 50 state wildlife agencies.
•A 2008 study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on blood lead levels of North Dakota hunters confirmed that consuming game harvested with traditional ammunition does not pose a human health risk.
•A ban on traditional ammunition would have a negative impact on wildlife conservation. The federal excise tax that manufacturers pay on the sale of the ammunition (11 percent) is a primary source of wildlife conservation funding. The bald eagle’s recovery, considered to be a great conservation success story, was made possible and funded by hunters using traditional ammunition – the very ammunition organizations like the CBD are now demonizing.
•Recent statistics from the United States Fish and Wildlife Service show that from 1981 to 2006 the number of breeding pairs of bald eagles in the United States increased 724 percent. And much like the bald eagle, raptor populations throughout the United States are soaring.

Steps to take:

1. Submit comment online to the EPA:
2. Contact Lisa Jackson directly to voice your opposition to the ban:

Lisa P. Jackson
Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20460
(202) 564-4700
Fax: (202) 501-1450

3. Contact your Congressman and Senators and urge them to stop the EPA from banning ammunition.

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