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texaswoodworker · 01-24-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by orangello

I think bears would make excellent test targets for the overpenetration test, but we would need to test on all of the various species of bears available: polar bear test, brown bear test, kodiak brown bear test, common black bear test, not to even mention the bears of other countries (yes, Pandas of course).

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Originally Posted by TheSadPanda

How dare you!

lol.

Will .223/5.56 penetrate a body? Well, if a 9mm FMJ 124 gr bullet traveling at 1150 ft/s has the possibility of over penetration, then a .224 FMJ 55 gr bullet traveling at 3240 ft/s will damn sure over penetrate.

**Marthor** · 01-24-2013, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by texaswoodworker

then a .224 FMJ 55 gr bullet traveling at 3240 ft/s will damn sure over penetrate.

not necessarily. If it fragments it can decelerate even faster than an expanding hollow point. Only 55 grains isn't much mass to keep up momentum in resistance either.

One way to understand it is if you've ever jumped into water from a great height. The faster you are going, the more the water hurts you. If the bullet is going faster, the more pressure on the bullet. That's why a close range bullet going faster may fragment more than if it was going slower from being shot from farther away.

**axxe55** · 01-24-2013, 02:48 AM

was a rifle, any rifle actually used? did he just use handguns? there's lots of questions that are sadly lacking in answers that are truthful.

another thing that comes to mind, is if he didn't even use a rifle and only used the handguns, then all this proposed gun control measures intigated by Obama is based on nothing more than lies, coming from disinformation spread by the liberal gun hating media.

i for one think that the American public is owed the truth about what really happened. the more they hide the truth, the more credence the conspiracy theorists claims have.

longunner · 01-24-2013, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeymike

It sure looks like they ejected a shotgun shell out of that gun in the trunk

It did didn't it? It was no AR in his trunk the cop in the video clearly had that thing turned so its right side was up...I have read rumors that it was a saiga and that sure is what it looks like to me...however unclear it is to see

**Wiseman3** · 01-24-2013, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by axxe55

was a rifle, any rifle actually used? did he just use handguns? there's lots of questions that are sadly lacking in answers that are truthful.

another thing that comes to mind, is if he didn't even use a rifle and only used the handguns, then all this proposed gun control measures intigated by Obama is based on nothing more than lies, coming from disinformation spread by the liberal gun hating media.

i for one think that the American public is owed the truth about what really happened. the more they hide the truth, the more credence the conspiracy theorists claims have.

You mean the administration created false details surrounding a tragic situation to push an agenda? Geez I've never seen them do that before.....(see Benghazi incident). Coincidentally, that poor scape goat is still sitting in jail.

**Vincine** · 01-24-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by orangello

I think bears would make excellent test targets for the overpenetration test, but we would need to test on all of the various species of bears available: polar bear test, brown bear test, kodiak brown bear test, common black bear test, not to even mention the bears of other countries (yes, Pandas of course).

But . . but . . Pandas aren't bears! They're related to raccoons! And they look like KISS.

**orangello** · 01-24-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSadPanda

How dare you!

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Originally Posted by Vincine

But . . but . . Pandas aren't bears! They're related to raccoons! And they look like KISS.

Suuuuuuuure, you guys go hug some pandas and get back to me on how that goes. They aren't vegetarians; they are just to lazy to kill something to eat; they have been known to eat carrion.