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Old 04-26-2013, 06:25 PM   #11
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C&P from Code of Virginia, 18.2-282 B.

Any police officer in the performance of his duty, in making an arrest under the provisions of this section, shall not be civilly liable in damages for injuries or death resulting to the person being arrested if he had reason to believe that the person being arrested was pointing, holding, or brandishing such firearm or air or gas operated weapon, or object that was similar in appearance, with intent to induce fear in the mind of another.

Translation- point what appears to be a real gun at a cop here, get shot, you or your heirs are not going to be able to sue the cop.

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Here's a pic of a C02 bb gun I use for practice. It's made of metal and from a few feet you cannot tell the difference between it and a firearm. The young boy learned a valuable lesson. I hope he's smart enough to remember it.

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Default Great freakin' parenting part 2....

We can all look back fondly on the innocence of our own childhood toys & experiences ... But what HAS changed since then is the lack of personal responsibility and the parenting dynamic. Here's another case of children who should have had an @$$ whoopin' some time back;
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/26/17928508-2-girls-threaten-to-kill-classmates-in-youtube-video-authorities-say?lite=&43001=

...and before you go there, Yes.. I am a parent. He's a great kid... I've had to spank him 3 times his entire childhood (he's 11 now so do the math...) and he's growing into a responsible, caring person who knows he can come to me with anything and everything.

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I'll leave these from the 60's and 70's. I had the 1st and the 5th, a cousin had the 4th one and the kid next door to me had the 2nd one.
Wow! Things were different back then though. I am also sure cops knew they were not real. Today, we live in a different world. Things have changed so much. The family was different, morals, values, respect, citizenship and parenting. Good conservative beliefs is dying away.
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Wow! Things were different back then though. I am also sure cops knew they were not real. Today, we live in a different world. Things have changed so much. The family was different, morals, values, respect, citizenship and parenting. Good conservative beliefs is dying away.
If someone pointed one of those things at me, I'd possibly shoot them without hesitation. They look pretty real to me.



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If someone pointed one of those things at me, I'd shoot them without hesitation. They look pretty real to me.



That's the set I had as a kid.
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That's the set I had as a kid.
How realistic are they close up? At a distance, its hard to tell they're not real. Especially if they are pointed at you.
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If someone pointed one of those things at me, I'd shoot them without hesitation. They look pretty real to me.
Same here even if kids surround my car and aim a weapon at me I'm shooting. These kids where not " playing"with a toy gun, they where "using" the toy gun to scare people big difference. If I was that kids dad he have alot more to worry about than the cops!: mad
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Maybe the toy gun looked "real" enough to scare people. The girls he was pointing it at didn't appear to be taking it seriously, though. But times have changed a lot since I was young. Back then, the assumption would have been that it was a toy, and nobody would have taken it seriously. I'm afraid that is what my take on it would have been, just that it was a kid with a toy. So far as the guy giving the reporter the finger, that may have been to discourage the TV crew from exposing his kid on national TV. The "news" (scandal) media is acting as if they are an authority figure, an extension of the government. There is no legal nor moral requirement to cooperate with interrogation by the TV reporters. If it were my kid, I'd make sure he didn't put himself in that position again, including taking the toy gun(s) away from him until he was old/mature enough to be more responsible. All said, he is a little kid. People are treating it like he was a seasoned gang-banger, and reacting like they are out for his blood.

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If you use a toy gun in the commission of a felony you still get gun charges.

If the kid had pulled that on me or my wife, he may have been killed in the process. That would have ruined two families, his and mine. I will no more let a ten year old kill me or my wife, than I would a 40 year old, if I can can stop it.

As far as comparing the "toy" gun issue to the 50s or 60s; it is a different world today.

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