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Old 05-18-2013, 03:23 AM   #21
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Hey All,

Well, I'm figuring after 2 weeks and no answer from the top, I am assuming the powers that be have swept my M14 idea under the table. No harm. I joined the M14forum.com as a means to answer my questions and such pertaining to these rifles. Might as well close this thread......

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I vote for no additional forum. A sub-forum with too little traffic isn't worth it and I think there are too many sub-forums already.

I have a mini-14 and I desperately can't wait to get a M1A Springfield when I get stationed in a free-state again. While in CA, I suffer the wait.

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What happened to the M14?

Well, besides what C3 mentioned, which is 100% true,

and very relevant; the M14 turned out to be more of a

doomed variant of the Garand, than a true model of it's own.

Long story short- the Garand was modified for a box mag.

Then inventive thinking and creativity to the Big G design

ran to "let's combine this box mag, with full auto selection,

and abbreviate the heavy, balky 30.06 to a lighter, shorter,

modern round." (The NATO 7.62X 51mm) The M14,

(long story short here) was the eventual

evolution of these attempts. A fine rifle, by many standards,

but, full auto, due to the usage of iconic retro Garand rifle

stock, was difficult to control.

In short order, the M14 wound up being replaced by the

COLT M-16 (Basically a copy of the Armalite AR15, which

had been successfully used by our special forces, and whose

failures, shortcomings, over-comings, and successes belong

in another story...) due to the ultimate success of the

more full-auto friendly Stoner-style AR stock.

The point being, while the Mini-14 is monikered in a manner

to hark back to the M14, in truth, it's lineage is not only

directly traceable to the M1, and M1A, in all truth it really

should be called, IMHO, the mini Garand.

So, "big brother"(M14, or newer semi "M1A"- yah,

thanks a pantload for creating THAT confusion)

father,(Garand), uncle( M1A carbine)

the Mini-14, though likely improperly named, bears a fine

and historic vintage design, bred of successes in the great

war.

Dang, I think I've created the Necro-Rant...

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I vote for no additional forum. A sub-forum with too little traffic isn't worth it and I think there are too many sub-forums already.

I have a mini-14 and I desperately can't wait to get a M1A Springfield when I get stationed in a free-state again. While in CA, I suffer the wait.
Marthor....thanks for the reply. I can't help thinking however, that you contradict yourself in a way. When you get your new M1A, might it be nice to talk with other owners of M1A's or M-14's if you come to a glitch or something? Just saying....
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What happened to the M14?

Well, besides what C3 mentioned, which is 100% true,

and very relevant; the M14 turned out to be more of a

doomed variant of the Garand, than a true model of it's own.

Long story short- the Garand was modified for a box mag.

Then inventive thinking and creativity to the Big G design

ran to "let's combine this box mag, with full auto selection,

and abbreviate the heavy, balky 30.06 to a lighter, shorter,

modern round." (The NATO 7.62X 51mm) The M14,

(long story short here) was the eventual

evolution of these attempts. A fine rifle, by many standards,

but, full auto, due to the usage of iconic retro Garand rifle

stock, was difficult to control.

In short order, the M14 wound up being replaced by the

COLT M-16 (Basically a copy of the Armalite AR15, which

had been successfully used by our special forces, and whose

failures, shortcomings, over-comings, and successes belong

in another story...) due to the ultimate success of the

more full-auto friendly Stoner-style AR stock.

The point being, while the Mini-14 is monikered in a manner

to hark back to the M14, in truth, it's lineage is not only

directly traceable to the M1, and M1A, in all truth it really

should be called, IMHO, the mini Garand.

So, "big brother"(M14, or newer semi "M1A"- yah,

thanks a pantload for creating THAT confusion)

father,(Garand), uncle( M1A carbine)

the Mini-14, though likely improperly named, bears a fine

and historic vintage design, bred of successes in the great

war.

Dang, I think I've created the Necro-Rant...
Hello therewolf, A few things. First, you apparently misread the title. It stated "What about the monk's big brother. Not....."What happened to...." second, while I appreciate the history lesson on the M-14, I also resent it. I am well aware of the M-14's history in Nam. And yes, the M-14 is derived from the Garand. But, once again, I was not asking what happened to the M-14. Merely, wanting to garner a spot in the forum for said rifle. If you take the time to go back and read the thread you will see that. By the way, the M-14 has made a big jump back into the hands of many a sniper(as the Mk-14 obr, and the M-21&25) over in Iraq and Afghanistan. I really wouldn't have wrote this, if your reply hadn't sounded so condescending. If you ask 100 people what rifle the mini is a compact replica of....I'm thinking 90 would say the M-14. Anyway, none of this matters. No spot for the M-14 has been given on here. Too bad.....
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Hello therewolf, A few things. First, you apparently misread the title. It stated "What about the monk's big brother. Not....."What happened to...." second, while I appreciate the history lesson on the M-14, I also resent it. I am well aware of the M-14's history in Nam. And yes, the M-14 is derived from the Garand. But, once again, I was not asking what happened to the M-14. Merely, wanting to garner a spot in the forum for said rifle. If you take the time to go back and read the thread you will see that. By the way, the M-14 has made a big jump back into the hands of many a sniper(as the Mk-14 obr, and the M-21&25) over in Iraq and Afghanistan. I really wouldn't have wrote this, if your reply hadn't sounded so condescending. If you ask 100 people what rifle the mini is a compact replica of....I'm thinking 90 would say the M-14. Anyway, none of this matters. No spot for the M-14 has been given on here. Too bad.....
The M14, due to reasons provided by C3, and the hackneyed history

I provided, simply has not become popular, in the hands of civilians.

Nobody owns one, so unfortunately, it's a short, narrow, untrod trail.


And you are correct, due to the tactic of foreign guerilla fighters,

of attacking beyond 5.56 range, the m14 is currently being brought

back into usage, by squad snipers.

So I guess, according to you, I've created the

condescending necro rant...
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