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Tenderribbs 04-22-2012 05:34 PM

Too reload or not to reload... 223
 
Is it worth A mans time too reload 223 I've saved alot of brass and my second question is how do I know I'f the brass that i have is reloadable?









So that others may live.

Shade 04-22-2012 06:31 PM

First question.
Very much worth your time to reload .223.

I purchase bulk bullets (Hornady 55 gr. FMJ-BT) for ~10 cents a piece.
Primers are ~3 cents a piece and powder runs me ~8 cents per round.

That's 21 cent per reload for components if you own the brass already.

Generally, factory .223 is ~50 cents per round; bulk deals will can get you
down to ~40 cents per round.

Second Question.
If your brass is really brass, it is reloadable; steel cases are not reloadable.




Also you can tailor your round to better fit your rifle and application
v. factory ammo.

Tenderribbs 04-23-2012 02:14 PM

Thanks shade

I have really been going thru some 223 lately . Ive aquired the black gun disease just purchased a colt AR a mini14 and a M&P AR223 so I'm eating thru some ammo. I guess the main expense is the press? Then u can probably spend as much as u want to accessorizing I presume.




So that others may live...

fmj 04-23-2012 04:46 PM

If your JUST starting out, the start up costs may seem insurmountable. But after buying press, dies, scale, measures, case length guides, trimmer, etc etc etc....you will NOT save a damn dime....because you will be shooting more!;)

linuxuser3890 04-23-2012 05:11 PM

Give us a number of how much you shoot per month, it will help to better answer your question. Also a lot of the reloading equipment is used for other calibers. So if you have any others that you shoot a good amount of, that may also help justify the purchase.

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Shade 04-23-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenderribbs (Post 779581)
Thanks shade

I have really been going thru some 223 lately . Ive aquired the black gun disease just purchased a colt AR a mini14 and a M&P AR223 so I'm eating thru some ammo. I guess the main expense is the press? Then u can probably spend as much as u want to accessorizing I presume.

If you go to the Ammo & Reloading forum here on FTF alot of material is
already posted on this subject. I am not going to cover all of that here.

When you are new to reloading, I strongly urge to start with a single
stage press. Take the time to learn the process. When you are confortable
with the process then make the move to a progressive press for your high
volume ammunition.

Lee has a good starter kit for just over $100 it has all the common
equipment for starting. You will need to add to that; dies and a case
gauge for trimming cases. So for about $150 you can be reloading ammo.
Case cleaning will be something you can add later.

Starter Kit.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/121744/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-kit

.223 Dies.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/434975/lee-pacesetter-3-die-set-223-remington

Case Gauge.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/107333/lee-case-length-gage-and-shellholder-223-remington?cm_vc=S014434975

As you assumed, you can accessorize all kind of toys to your reloading set up.
The big jump is getting into progresive presses. I have several progressives.
But I still spend alot of time on my single stage units, all my big rifle magnums
are still loaded in a single stage. 12 ga., .357 Magnum and .45 ACP are
loaded via progressives. I also do a semi progressive operation with my .223;
all sizing, case prep and priming is done single stage/manually, but I drop
powder, seat bullets and crimp on my progressive press for speed.

But reloading your own ammo open a whole world of options that factory
ammo just cannot give you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmj (Post 779710)
If your JUST starting out, the start up costs may seem insurmountable. But after buying press, dies, scale, measures, case length guides, trimmer, etc etc etc....you will NOT save a damn dime....because you will be shooting more!;)

And you say that like it is a bad thing... LOL :D:p

ryguy00 04-23-2012 10:32 PM

I'm all set up with the equipment needed to load .223/5.56. I have everything I need EXCEPT brass. That, I'm running dangerously low on at the moment. If you decide not to reload and wanna get rid of some of that extra brass, please let me know!

fmj 04-24-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shade (Post 779795)
If you go to the Ammo & Reloading forum here on FTF alot of material is
already posted on this subject. I am not going to cover all of that here.

When you are new to reloading, I strongly urge to start with a single
stage press. Take the time to learn the process. When you are confortable
with the process then make the move to a progressive press for your high
volume ammunition.

Lee has a good starter kit for just over $100 it has all the common
equipment for starting. You will need to add to that; dies and a case
gauge for trimming cases. So for about $150 you can be reloading ammo.
Case cleaning will be something you can add later.

Starter Kit.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/121744/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-kit

.223 Dies.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/434975/lee-pacesetter-3-die-set-223-remington

Case Gauge.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/107333/lee-case-length-gage-and-shellholder-223-remington?cm_vc=S014434975

As you assumed, you can accessorize all kind of toys to your reloading set up.
The big jump is getting into progresive presses. I have several progressives.
But I still spend alot of time on my single stage units, all my big rifle magnums
are still loaded in a single stage. 12 ga., .357 Magnum and .45 ACP are
loaded via progressives. I also do a semi progressive operation with my .223;
all sizing, case prep and priming is done single stage/manually, but I drop
powder, seat bullets and crimp on my progressive press for speed.

But reloading your own ammo open a whole world of options that factory
ammo just cannot give you.



And you say that like it is a bad thing... LOL :D:p

LMAO!!

THAT depends on who you ask....and unfortunetly in my house, since getting yougest and wifey hooked on shooting, I dont get to shoot more....i just get the "joy" :rolleyes: of reloading more, so THEY can shoot more.

Tenderribbs 04-24-2012 01:13 PM

Thanks for the feedback if I could get a starter kit for a 100 that Ain't bad and I have been shooting about a couple hundred rounds a month and I dont see me slowing down anytime soon! Thanks shade that was alot of info that will keep me busy for a While. The only caliber that I will be reloading is the 223 with a little 243,




So that others may live...

Shade 04-24-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmj (Post 780497)
LMAO!!

THAT depends on who you ask....and unfortunetly in my house, since getting yougest and wifey hooked on shooting, I dont get to shoot more....i just get the "joy" :rolleyes: of reloading more, so THEY can shoot more.

I had the same issue, my 2 boys love to shoot, they are 10 and 13,
guess who is learning how to reload now... I started them on shotshells
the 13 year old is being worked into metallic now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenderribbs (Post 780534)
Thanks for the feedback if I could get a starter kit for a 100 that Ain't bad and I have been shooting about a couple hundred rounds a month and I dont see me slowing down anytime soon! Thanks shade that was alot of info that will keep me busy for a While. The only caliber that I will be reloading is the 223 with a little 243.

In addition, all of Lee's equipment works, some better than other some not.
But Lee will get you in the basics for a very good value and you can then
decide to what to upgrade and when.

You can add a set of dies and case length gauge and and you are set for .243.


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