I think it is pretty chill so far, and do appreciate that. I'm chill, how about you guys?
The intention of my post above was to shine some light on the general respect issues (and lack thereof) around here.
Yes, I am fully aware that emotions run high on the interwebz and gun forums. But we all share the love of shooting, so why is there so much rude flaming?
If one member thinks the Hi-Point (or CZ, 1911, Glock, XD, Hi Power, etc...) is a great gun, let him. Maybe it is all he can afford?
So instead of telling that member it is a piece of garbage and he is a douchebag for liking it, an appropriate response would be to discuss the Hi-Point, and point out that it could be a useful stepping stone into something more durable or ergonomic? Constructive vs Destructive discussion. I doubt anyone considers the Hi-Point the end all of defensive pistols. The problem isn't the affection/hate for the Hi-Point, it is the rude manner in which members disagree. Disagreement can be done with respect as easily as with rudeness.
Why does someone feel it is OK to be rude to someone else just because it is done from a distance, over the interwebz? Would either one be that rude to the other if they were standing face to face at a table at a gun show? No way. It would probably lead to a fight. But around here it is almost a badge of honor to be a jackhole to someone.
There is a pervading sense of "Jr. High School clique" around here. I have seen new members with valid viewpoints get jumped just because of a comment they made. Is that "thin skinned" or just plain rude? I know I'm not the only one around here who feels it is rude. And some of the comments in the Premium Forums are shocking. What happens when one of the people being flamed in there steps up and gains access? When they see what has been written about them? Is there really a purpose for that kind of behavior from what I assume are adults who share a common interest?
Imagine a senior member telling someone with a Hi-Point that it is an unsafe piece of garbage. Then imagine seeing a headline on the cover of Time Magazine stating that "The Hi-Point is an unsafe piece of garbage, according to a very senior member of the FTF, one of the largest gun forums in the world"? How does that help the cause of gun ownership?
And since this is the Mini14 forum, I'll end with this. In some states (CA, among others) the Mini 14 can be owned and used with detachable full capacity mags, while an un-registered AR15 cannot. And there is no way to register an AR any more (in CA). If you want an AR it needs to be an OLL with a fixed 10rd mag.
I would rather have a Mini14 with a 20rd or 30rd mag with which to repel boarders, than a tacticool AR15 with a fixed 10rd mag.
A basic used Mini 14 can be bought cheap, and upgraded as finances allow, too. Tinkering can make the Mini14 plenty accurate.
OK. I'm still chill, but feel better. Who else wants to chime in?
Originally Posted by Dillinger
Everyone just chill out. What's will all the thin skin lately? Cabin Fever Kicking in and everyone wants to get out shooting?
Tango answered a post that he thought
, admittedly mistakenly, was in the OPEN RIFLE SECTION
For the money the OP was posting he wanted to spend, Tango offered an alternative.
He didn't post anything that was out of the ordinary, or even out of line, but it was PERCEIVED to be a slap in the face of the Mini-14 Platform.
Tango reported his own post and asked that it be reviewed. He made a mistake and he manned up and admitted it.
People have opinions. Sometimes people ask open ended questions that other posters respond with information that is counter to what the OP wanted to know.
It's the Interwebz people. If everyone was right all the time, it would be a pretty boring place...