Originally Posted by Neophyte1
rifleman55; Sir, information is why I visit many firearm sites. Good clear information.
Your thoughts are clear. Disappointed, I am. Ruger happens to be my disease, my wanting several other ?models? haha
For those with concerns, idea's, thoughts.
Contact Ruger; Ruger - Tell the CEO
share your concern. Be positive; as always; follow up.
I did contact the CEO, was positive. I was refered to the head engineer and the QC guy. I spoke with both of them and they are closed minded, i followed that up with the CEO. Never heard another word..
I gave some very good suggestions and also told them what people were running into with the Mini as far a problems go.
From what I can see, they just package every gun. If you get a good one, your happy. If you get one with problems, you can send it back to ruger, live with the problem, have your gunsmith try to fix it or fix it yourself.
I figure Ruger thinks they are saving money because many people don't want to wait 6 weeks and have any mods they have done removed from the rifle, so they try to fix the problems themselves and in any cases they can.
Everyone does a trigger job when they get a mini because the trigger is so bad there is no way you can hold a decent group. Send it back for repair and you will have new trigger parts and the same bad pull. They keep the old parts that someone paid a smith $80.00 to make right. Why do you want to loose a perfectly safe trigger when something small needs to be fixed. Unless it's a restricted part, you are going to fix it yourself. A decent lawyer proof trigger could be put in the gun, but they refuse and unless you are very lucky, you get the worst trigger of any gun in the industry.
This is just my opinion based on what I and others have seen.
My Tactical would not extract at all when I got it and had several other problems, so there is no way a QC person could have looked at it. They had to have test fired it, took a knife and pulled the case out of the chamber and boxed it up. No other explanation is possible. They just shined it on.
I've seen pics of the two halves of the receiver 1/8" off and the gun was still shipped.
What is one to figure?
They continued to make mini's when they knew they had a major problem with the scope mounts until they got new machinery, they didn't stop production and pay more for a rush on the part they needed, they just kept making defective guns and boxing them up.. I can't even put a rail on mine, it cants the rail. I put an old scope I didn't care about in the ruger rings and it cut both sides of the scope tube really deep. I sent the gun back. The one scallop is very crooked and both are only cut to half depth on the one side (the other side the scallops are cast with the receiver), ruger sent it back, telling me the mounts were in spec. Lucky for me, we contacted Farrel Industries who is now making the best rail for the mini you can get. We explained the problem and they made a new rail that does not depend on the scallops to lock down the mount. I've got the first prototype. It requires gunsmith installation and is rock solid and in perfect alignment. You want the perfect mount that will not hurt your expensive scope, contact Farrel .
I love my Rugers and have had zero problems until lately. Even gunsmiths who specialize in rugers admit there is a problem, but keep very low key about it.
I want Ruger to redesign the bolt and FP and really do some good QC work. I want the Ruger to be the best. I am just having no luck getting through to them.
I've really tried, just no one hears.
I really am tired of beating my head against the wall and don't wish to keep harping on Ruger to get it right, so I'm going to stop here. It does no good to complain. If you get a Bad gun from ruger, complain to the high heavens. It's the only way they will ever change things is if enough people stop buying their guns. I know a lot of people who will not buy a mini 30 because of FP problems.
If it was just me having the problem, I'd figure I just got a lemon, but go to other sites, nothing but bad reports with the exceptions of the people who were lucky enough to get a good one or drink ruger cool aid.
They need to make a barrel with a #1 taper instead of all the cuts and angles which just puts stress into the barrel. After Cryo treatment to releive the stress they put in the barrel, my Tactical shoots much better. It should have a proper barrel on it to begin with.
If ruger would correct the design, they would sell a lot of them, me included, but until they make a major design change and up their QC, I will not buy another ruger.
All of this is my opinion, make of it what you will, but as I said, I'm done. I just want to help people with problems, help people make them shoot beter and also enjoy other parts of the forum as I own a bunch of firearms besides rugers.