for the people that say mini 14's are not accurate

ANAKINANAYA · 03-15-2010, 04:32 AM

this is a pic of my mini 14 and some targets that i have shot at my local outdoor gun range. mind you the one on the right was done at 100 yards the one on the left was done at 150 yards using monarch 55 grain full metal jacket rounds that i bought at academy for 5.99.

mrm14 · 03-15-2010, 04:53 AM

Had an older 180 series in the late 70's and it would shoot about 3+" groups @100 yds. Bought a newer 580 series in 2008 and it constantly shoots 1+" groups @ 100 yards. Quite an improvement over the older 180 series. Having a trigger job done, taking the pull weight down to just a tad under 3 lbs., was a real plus for this rifle.

**doctherock** · 03-15-2010, 05:03 AM

my father bagged many deer with his mini-14 at 100 to 300 yard distances.

**spittinfire** · 03-15-2010, 10:27 AM

Depends on your defenition of accurate. Sure, that will hit a man or a fat ground hog but there are many rifles that will hold a tighter group. Nothing wrong with a mini 14, it's all in what you want.

crockett007 · 03-15-2010, 12:16 PM

I agree that the shooters individual definition of "accurate" reigns in this discussion.

A Mini-14 is a 150 yd carbine. Your results seem to substantiate that. Enjoy your rifle.

MoAmmoPlease · 03-24-2010, 01:15 PM

It seems to me that "most" guns shoot better than their owners. I'm a GREAT shot when I'm at the range with a toy up on sandbags or in a sled but what separates the men from the boys is shooting the same gun off hand.

Just because your gun can shoot 1MOA doesn't mean you can. A trip to the range will show you the same guy who can shoot 1 inch off the bench at 100yds can't hit a 15 inch steel plate off hand half the time. I'm just saying that in a practical sense I'm far more interested in shooting 5 inches off hand at a 100yds rather than .5 inches off the bench. The fact is all my guns shoot better than I do so a Holosight rests on the Mini and I shoot it for what it is.

**Jo da Plumbr** · 03-24-2010, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoAmmoPlease

It seems to me that "most" guns shoot better than their owners. I'm a GREAT shot when I'm at the range with a toy up on sandbags or in a sled but what separates the men from the boys is shooting the same gun off hand.

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What seperates men from boys is men know that guns are not toys.

MoAmmoPlease · 03-24-2010, 05:30 PM

Jo your correct that my choice of words was poor but you missed the point in your quest for proper verbage. I was just suggesting that the accuracy of the weapon/firearm/gun itself was secondary to the accuracy of the shooter.

A gun that will drive tacks will only do so in the right hands..and those hands don't happen to be mine or 97% percent of the shooting population.

crockett007 · 03-25-2010, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoAmmoPlease

It seems to me that "most" guns shoot better than their owners. I'm a GREAT shot when I'm at the range with a toy up on sandbags or in a sled but what separates the men from the boys is shooting the same gun off hand.

Just because your gun can shoot 1MOA doesn't mean you can. A trip to the range will show you the same guy who can shoot 1 inch off the bench at 100yds can't hit a 15 inch steel plate off hand half the time. I'm just saying that in a practical sense I'm far more interested in shooting 5 inches off hand at a 100yds rather than .5 inches off the bench. The fact is all my guns shoot better than I do so a Holosight rests on the Mini and I shoot it for what it is.

Despite the criticism as to the semantics.......I think this response is one of the best posts I have ever read on these boards. IMHO I think it is absolutely true. The over emphasis on "shot groups" and "accuracy" of a particular weapon drown out the "reality" of practical application(s) of marksmanship.

JoeParker · 03-25-2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spittinfire

Depends on your defenition of accurate. Sure, that will hit a man or a fat ground hog but there are many rifles that will hold a tighter group. Nothing wrong with a mini 14, it's all in what you want.

I agree with spittinfire 100%.

03-15-2010, 04:32 AM	#1
ANAKINANAYA Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 52	for the people that say mini 14's are not accurate this is a pic of my mini 14 and some targets that i have shot at my local outdoor gun range. mind you the one on the right was done at 100 yards the one on the left was done at 150 yards using monarch 55 grain full metal jacket rounds that i bought at academy for 5.99. Attached Thumbnails

03-15-2010, 05:03 AM	#3
doctherock Freedom paid in full Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Astoria Posts: 2,196	my father bagged many deer with his mini-14 at 100 to 300 yard distances. __________________ I refuse to have a battle of wits with an un-armed man.

03-15-2010, 10:27 AM	#4
spittinfire she finds deer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maiden, North Carolina Posts: 6,064	Depends on your defenition of accurate. Sure, that will hit a man or a fat ground hog but there are many rifles that will hold a tighter group. Nothing wrong with a mini 14, it's all in what you want. __________________ If the pain is lacking so is the discipline... "the only 911 call I need is chambering a round" - Mr. Muller, MO car dealer

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03-15-2010, 04:53 AM	#2
mrm14 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sacramento, California, California Posts: 869	Had an older 180 series in the late 70's and it would shoot about 3+" groups @100 yds. Bought a newer 580 series in 2008 and it constantly shoots 1+" groups @ 100 yards. Quite an improvement over the older 180 series. Having a trigger job done, taking the pull weight down to just a tad under 3 lbs., was a real plus for this rifle.

03-15-2010, 12:16 PM	#5
crockett007 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 145	I agree that the shooters individual definition of "accurate" reigns in this discussion. A Mini-14 is a 150 yd carbine. Your results seem to substantiate that. Enjoy your rifle.

03-24-2010, 01:15 PM	#6
MoAmmoPlease Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 31	It seems to me that "most" guns shoot better than their owners. I'm a GREAT shot when I'm at the range with a toy up on sandbags or in a sled but what separates the men from the boys is shooting the same gun off hand. Just because your gun can shoot 1MOA doesn't mean you can. A trip to the range will show you the same guy who can shoot 1 inch off the bench at 100yds can't hit a 15 inch steel plate off hand half the time. I'm just saying that in a practical sense I'm far more interested in shooting 5 inches off hand at a 100yds rather than .5 inches off the bench. The fact is all my guns shoot better than I do so a Holosight rests on the Mini and I shoot it for what it is.

03-24-2010, 05:30 PM	#8
MoAmmoPlease Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 31	Jo your correct that my choice of words was poor but you missed the point in your quest for proper verbage. I was just suggesting that the accuracy of the weapon/firearm/gun itself was secondary to the accuracy of the shooter. A gun that will drive tacks will only do so in the right hands..and those hands don't happen to be mine or 97% percent of the shooting population.