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Old 01-03-2014, 08:08 PM   #21
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Part of my thinking was to get two Leupold VX-Rs that operate and function the same. That should shorten my learning curve, and make things a little more intuitive for me. I think...

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Part of my thinking was to get two Leupold VX-Rs that operate and function the same. That should shorten my learning curve, and make things a little more intuitive for me. I think...
well, i looked through this model at a LGS and i would have walked out with it had it been a true 1X. the illumination was bright and clear, as was the scope. very compact, i liked everything about it except the 1.5 and the price....though i realize for many, 400-450 isn't much to pay for a scope. but it was hard for me to justify it on a sub 700 AR. still, had it been a true 1X....i still might've come home with it. it was VERY nice.

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The VXR is a 1.25x4 I believe. I wonder if the 1.25 is close enough to 1x to be noticeable. I'll have to check the specs. I've noticed that the specs differ from the listed magnifications on a lot of scopes. For example, a 2x7 ,ay actually be listed as something like a 1.8 x 6.8 on their technical specs. More research for me I guess.

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Hawkguy, can you explain to me why you want a true 1x as opposed to a 1.5x or something similar? I assume it makes a difference on closer shots, but I am wondering how much difference, and what the actual sight picture on the scope looks like.

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Hawkguy, can you explain to me why you want a true 1x as opposed to a 1.5x or something similar? I assume it makes a difference on closer shots, but I am wondering how much difference, and what the actual sight picture on the scope looks like.
i can only give you my opinion here, and i will remind you again....i am FAR from an expert on the matter. but if i am in the market for a 1X scope, the reason for having a 1X would be to use the sight as a quick acquisition "iron sights" that you can use with both eyes open. so i think how you want to use this 1X makes all the difference if you might want a true 1X vs a 1.5 or so.

many 1X scopes are very slightly magnified, maybe 1.1 or so. imo, the more a 1X is magnified, the harder it is for ME to use the 1X as a makeshift irons sight. the more the image is magnified the more it confuses my vision and perception and makes it harder to follow targets in that 1X settings. so for me, a 1.25 or 1.5 makes it more difficult to use the 1X effectively. this is something i suppose you could probably get used to, but i don't like it. and considering everyone's vision is different, i may not bother other shooters to have that slight magnification. but it sure as hell bothers me.

also, some scopes with a near true 1X may not have great clarity (or have some blurriness), which imo can also inhibit "both eyes open" quick shooting. that's the reason i think it is important to look through any scope before buying it, if you can.

again, all my opinion. look through some scopes and see what you think. i'm sure there are many shooters that are not bothered at all by a 1.5 scope. likely just personal preference and depending greatly on what role you want your scope to fill.
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Thanks for the explanation. Just trying to soak in everything I can before buying something.

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I'am sure with all the people on this sight that have a lot of knowledge about glass you will find what your lookin for. I mut say that breaking that gun in on 500 rnds of good brass IMHO is smart. I broke mine in on about a 1000 rnds of brass before I ever put any cheaper steel in it. And it eat's everything I feed it.

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Hawkguy,
Here's the URL you should have posted to show the Redfield 2X7 with the Accu-Range reticle. I have this on my Mini-14 SS RR coyote gun.
http://swfa.com/Redfield-2-7x33-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44467.aspx

I just bought another one from Oprics Planet for $179 a few days ago.

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Hawkguy,
Here's the URL you should have posted to show the Redfield 2X7 with the Accu-Range reticle. I have this on my Mini-14 SS RR coyote gun.
http://swfa.com/Redfield-2-7x33-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44467.aspx

I just bought another one from Oprics Planet for $179 a few days ago.
i thought i would really like the accu-range reticle, but when i looked through them both...i preferred the 4 plex reticle. but this is just a personal preference.

those revolutions are GREAT scopes for the price imo....i didn't see much, if anything, in the price range that compared.
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Thanks for the explanation. Just trying to soak in everything I can before buying something.
report back when you decide!
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