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Old 04-16-2012, 12:15 AM   #11
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I have heard several similar problems with the tac mini's 16.5" barrel. Something about short barrel and gas pressure with 55 grain. 62 will have a longer barrel time and allow more gas pressure to operate the action. Remember we are looking at milliseconds. Dont seem to have the problem with the Ranch 18.5" barrel.

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Ribbs,

Hopefully by now you have completely cleaned the New Mini and lubed all of the parts with a good quality lube like Breakfree (Don't forget to shake it before use!) Mil-Tec or other good lube. (Not Rem Oil!) It is too lite for the standard semi-auto rifle! And will cook off with heat in the semi-auto rifle! Since it is a brand new rifle I would suggest the parts look a little wet with lube!
Anyway as suggested clean and lube it good! If it doesn't shoot send it in!
No one should tolerate a new rifle that will not function!

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Hopefully by now you have completely cleaned the New Mini and lubed all of the parts with a good quality lube like Breakfree (Don't forget to shake it before use!) Mil-Tec or other good lube. (Not Rem Oil!) It is too lite for the standard semi-auto rifle! And will cook off with heat in the semi-auto rifle! Since it is a brand new rifle I would suggest the parts look a little wet with lube!
Anyway as suggested clean and lube it good! If it doesn't shoot send it in!
No one should tolerate a new rifle that will not function!

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i never had any trouble with my mini chucking lead all day with a bit of rem oil. but, i will take your advice and start using breakfree. better safe than sorry

i really do think shooting with packing grease could be the problem. i just strpied and cleaned my new AR out of the box and it was FILTHY.

but the tacticals have been a little more trouble prone than others in posts i have read lately. if a good clean, lube, and decent ammo doesn't get it working like a charm....back to ruger and demand a new rifle imo.
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I have heard several similar problems with the tac mini's 16.5" barrel. Something about short barrel and gas pressure with 55 grain. 62 will have a longer barrel time and allow more gas pressure to operate the action. Remember we are looking at milliseconds. Dont seem to have the problem with the Ranch 18.5" barrel.
i brought up this issue at another site a few months back. it seemed like the majority of the mini problems were coming from newer tacticals. i could never really confirm that suspition though.
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i brought up this issue at another site a few months back. it seemed like the majority of the mini problems were coming from newer tacticals. i could never really confirm that suspition though.
I was looking at the mini 14 when I ran across the info. Seems to make sense. I think I would want the longer barrel anyway if I got one. I have an AR and a Mini 30. I like the Mini's and I can take them into the PRK and actually shoot them at the range if I visit the family. I have 3-10 round mags for the M30. The 20's are a no no.
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Hawk,

It sure is not that Rem Oil is not a good product for the right application.
The only issue is it does cook off if the rifles should get hot! And you are correct! Most all of the manufacturers suggest not to use grease on an AR Rifle. Only a good quality lubricant. M-14 and Garand "Yes!" Good lubricant also including our threads on the Mobile One Synthetic Motor Oil and Mobile One Synthetic Trans Fluid Formula that works absolutely great! Makes a bunch for a good price.
1 quart of Mobile One Synthetic Motor Oil 15 W 50 and 1/2 Quart of Mobile One Synthetic Transmission Fluid. Makes a whole quart and a half of the finest lube you could ever use. We have used it at the Academy Carbine Instructor Certification School for over 10 years. Put it in a container, mix it together and you are ready to go! You can also put it into smaller containers or bottles after it is mixed. I use some old Lube Dispensers that are empty. Like the small bottles of Break Free and other products. Info Only!

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It sure is not that Rem Oil is not a good product for the right application.
The only issue is it does cook off if the rifles should get hot! And you are correct! Most all of the manufacturers suggest not to use grease on an AR Rifle. Only a good quality lubricant. M-14 and Garand "Yes!" Good lubricant also including our threads on the Mobile One Synthetic Motor Oil and Mobile One Synthetic Trans Fluid Formula that works absolutely great! Makes a bunch for a good price.
1 quart of Mobile One Synthetic Motor Oil 15 W 50 and 1/2 Quart of Mobile One Synthetic Transmission Fluid. Makes a whole quart and a half of the finest lube you could ever use. We have used it at the Academy Carbine Instructor Certification School for over 10 years. Put it in a container, mix it together and you are ready to go! You can also put it into smaller containers or bottles after it is mixed. I use some old Lube Dispensers that are empty. Like the small bottles of Break Free and other products. Info Only!

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good info. thanks!
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Ditto what Hawkguy said. There are a number of videos on you tube on how to disassemble and clean the mini. And the problem isn't the 55gr bullets. I get my best groups with 55gr.

Don't clean the gas bushing though. I've read that carbon builds up on the gas bushing and actually seals it. (I'm also wondering if you're not getting enough pressure in part because it hasn't had enough rounds to seal it?)
Why would you want to seal the gas port bushing? The gas port is where the energy comes from to operate your rifle. If the gas bushing port is sealed, your rifle won't work semi-automatically.

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Why would you want to seal the gas port bushing? The gas port is where the energy comes from to operate your rifle. If the gas bushing port is sealed, your rifle won't work semi-automatically.

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You don't want to seal the hole in the bushing, Only the slop between the outside of the bushing the barrel and the gas pipe. Kinda like caulking a 2 inch pipe in a 2 1/2 inch hole.
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You don't want to seal the hole in the bushing, Only the slop between the outside of the bushing the barrel and the gas pipe. Kinda like caulking a 2 inch pipe in a 2 1/2 inch hole.
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