Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion > Mini-14 Forum > going Deer hunting

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-01-2010, 12:28 AM   #21
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 89
Default

what bullet do you recomend, the match bullet did a good job bringing down a 180lb hog last year

I also have some soft point 55 gr bullets I could use

__________________

Last edited by Kaptin; 11-01-2010 at 12:31 AM.
Kaptin is offline  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 12:38 AM   #22
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jpattersonnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South central,NH
Posts: 4,897
Liked 663 Times on 454 Posts
Likes Given: 666

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptin View Post
I'll be hunting North Eastern Missouri and using Hornady 75 grain hollow points.

perfectly Legal to use for hunting deer there , just like my state of Texas


•centerfire pistol, revolver or rifle using expanding-type bullets. Legal ammunition includes lead bullets, copper bullets and bullets made of other material designed to expand.

???????

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptin View Post
that is not the bulet I am using
Hornady only makes a 75gr HP Match bullet!!!
__________________

Freedom is not free. The best of us always leave too soon.

jpattersonnh is offline  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 12:41 AM   #23
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 89
Default

I just looked at the box, its the match bullet, I bought them last year. They did take down my hog last year, and I think that is a tough animal compared to a deer

__________________

Last edited by Kaptin; 11-01-2010 at 12:48 AM.
Kaptin is offline  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 12:43 AM   #24
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jca1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: R.R.,NC
Posts: 1,464
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

A .223 will drop a deer like a bag of rocks if the shooter is good. Just like the whole .380 or .45 for home defense, shot placement is key.

__________________

[]]]]]]]]]]]]\>
"----)_'_\--(
"--------\--\
"---------\_/

jca1 is offline  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 01:16 AM   #25
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Stafford, Virginia,The state of insanity.
Posts: 14,043
Liked 33 Times on 28 Posts

Default

I am giving up. You can't stop stupid.

__________________
cpttango30 is offline  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 01:33 AM   #26
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jca1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: R.R.,NC
Posts: 1,464
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

I've seen people track deer for hours after shooting them badly with 7mm's, 300wsm's, 270's, 30-06's, 243's, 6mm's, etc. I've also seen them dead where they stood after a clean shot with a .223.

__________________

[]]]]]]]]]]]]\>
"----)_'_\--(
"--------\--\
"---------\_/

jca1 is offline  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 01:34 AM   #27
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jca1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: R.R.,NC
Posts: 1,464
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cpttango30 View Post
I am giving up. You can't stop stupid.
apparently you can
__________________

[]]]]]]]]]]]]\>
"----)_'_\--(
"--------\--\
"---------\_/

jca1 is offline  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 02:29 AM   #28
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ninjatoth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Near Saginaw,Michigan
Posts: 1,404
Liked 111 Times on 88 Posts
Likes Given: 36

Default

Deer are a whole nother animal compared to humans or pigs,you might blow a hole right through it's heart,but if there ain't enough energy or knockdown power,that deer can still cover a huge distance after being wounded,you will have killed it yes once it lays down to die,but you might spend hours tracking it or even have to go on someone else's land to find it,it's just a big mess.I have only ever used guns in excess of 3,000 ft lbs muzzle energy@less than 50 yards to take deer,it seems like overkill,but they have never made it more than 10 feet after being shot.I'm not saying you can't do it with a .223,but I guarantee it's running,and if you hit off,like it's gut,you may never find it,as where something with alot more power may even bring it down right there or make it lay down and die faster.

__________________

S&W 915 9mm
Mossberg 500 Mariner 12ga
1945 Win 94
Ruger MKIII 22/45 4"
Savage MK II
Ruger SP101 .357
Kung-Fu Moves

ninjatoth is offline  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 02:50 AM   #29
Crazy Azz Redneck
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Txhillbilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,406
Liked 1077 Times on 618 Posts
Likes Given: 505

Default

Damn,Tango and Spitty are getting all worked up on this.

I guess I'll have to go buy another 50BMG before Saturday if I want to get a deer this year.

While not the best choice of caliber for whitetail,a 223 will take them out with 1 shot.I have done it numerous times,and I might even take the Savage model 12 out this year.

Bullet choice is an area of concern though.A Match grade bullet is not designed to be a hunting bullet,and most just disintegrate on impact of larger game animals or punch a small hole clean through.
The only one that I would use is the Sierra Gameking 65gr or the Speer 70gr SP.They penetrate well,expand good,and retain a good amount of their weight.

You do need to know your range and limitations with a small caliber though,and I mostly use them for neck or head shots at ranges less than 100 yards.

__________________
Txhillbilly is online now  
 
Old 11-01-2010, 04:11 AM   #30
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 16,901
Liked 5099 Times on 2650 Posts
Likes Given: 309

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Txhillbilly View Post
Bullet choice is an area of concern though.A Match grade bullet is not designed to be a hunting bullet,and most just disintegrate on impact of larger game animals or punch a small hole clean through.
The only one that I would use is the Sierra Gameking 65gr or the Speer 70gr SP.They penetrate well,expand good,and retain a good amount of their weight.

.
i agree and would like to add the reason you dont want to use a match bullet is that a match grade bullet will explode on the surface if it hits a bone or glance off leaving a wounded but very much alive deer that can run for miles before it dies. a proper soft point deigned to retain weight will penetrate through without much weight loss. it isnt that a match grade wont kill its just not a nice thing to do by risking wounding an animal by using a bullet intended solely to punch paper.
__________________
JonM is online now  
 
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
.223 Deer Hunting Loads? PTsouthpaw Ammunition & Reloading 33 11-24-2010 08:33 PM
Legal for deer hunting? rp50817 Revolver Handguns 9 10-10-2010 04:09 AM
I want to know all about the crossbow for deer hunting. Josey Wales '94 Other Weapons 3 08-28-2010 08:50 PM
UK Deer Hunting Qualifications photopro Training & Safety 6 12-02-2009 12:35 AM