[p35bhp55]

Originally Posted by hawkguy

if you want a stainless or tactical, they can't be had from factory with a wood stock (except one exclusive model). if you end up with a (cheap imo) poly stock, midway usa sells the old curved butt style wood stocks, which i love. very easy to switch out (just remember to get extra hardware) and then you can have both stocks like me.

personally, i think the stainless models and tacticals look so good in the wood stocks.....idk why ruger doesn't offer them from factory.

Or he can get a tactical in poly and swap it to me for either style wood. Have one of each in good shape and some of us like the black plastic.

[hawkguy]

Originally Posted by p35bhp55

Or he can get a tactical in poly and swap it to me for either style wood. Have one of each in good shape and some of us like the black plastic.

even though i don't prefer the black plastic, it is lighter and more trouble free, so i understand why others would prefer it. i keep my poly stock JIC, cause i tend to baby my wood stocks.

[TLuker]

Originally Posted by TooStrongTerry

See around me I don't think id have to go over 100 yards. If I can hit the vitals I'm happy. If I can rapid fire to mess around I'm happy. If the gun looks bad sas I'm happy I don't shoot paper too much. I get bored real quick. I have a easier time hitting steel or moving objects than amazingly close groups. I think I'm gonna go with it. And get a warranty JIC LOL

For what you're looking for you won't have any problems. It'll hit vitals at 100 yards all day long out of the box.

[p35bhp55]

Originally Posted by hawkguy

even though i don't prefer the black plastic, it is lighter and more trouble free, so i understand why others would prefer it. i keep my poly stock JIC, cause i tend to baby my wood stocks.

Mine only just became trouble free, the bedding makes it fit so much better.

[hawkguy]

Originally Posted by p35bhp55

Or he can get a tactical in poly and swap it to me for either style wood. Have one of each in good shape and some of us like the black plastic.

see this post, toostrongterry? can't beat a deal like this!

[hawkguy]

Originally Posted by p35bhp55

Mine only just became trouble free, the bedding makes it fit so much better.

that was one of my issues with the plastic stock, it seemed to fit quite sloppy compared to my wood. that, and i think they are butt ugly

[Gonzilla]

I realize it may be bad form to pick the AR over the mini on a Mini 14 forum but it's not even close. I heard about the accuracy problems but I still chose the mini and it was simply economics. The mini was $400 at the time and AR was $800.

Being X-military, I am very familiar w the AR and it is a superior platform right out of the box. Look at any Midway USA or equivalent calalog and it will have 4-8 pages devoted to mini and 40 devoted to AR.

Caliber conversion : the AR top can be swapped out to convert to quite a variety of rounds from 458 down to meet any need - tactical, survival or hunting. It's simply a more versatile and modern platform. Piston or gas impingement both have their fans.

Barrel length is dependent upon what your going to use it for. I'd pay the $200 and get the 14" barrel as it handles like a dream but you'll lose velocity - no free lunch.

[hawkguy]

Gonzilla;834239]I realize it may be bad form to pick the AR over the mini on a Mini 14 forum but it's not even close. I heard about the accuracy problems but I still chose the mini and it was simply economics. The mini was $400 at the time and AR was $800.

its not bad form, its your opinion & that's all good. my only concern is comparing apples to apples. in the past, many AR fans would state how much better their AR is than a mini and fail to mention it costs twice as much. in a battle of ARs that are price comparable to a mini, the AR will likely be more accurate out of the box. other than that, i don't see anything "better" about an equally priced AR. just mo. and i own both.

Being X-military, I am very familiar w the AR and it is a superior platform right out of the box. Look at any Midway USA or equivalent calalog and it will have 4-8 pages devoted to mini and 40 devoted to AR.

this just proves one platform is more popular, not absolutely "better". i mean justin beiber is more popular than the beatles right now, i wouldn't call him "better" music though.

Caliber conversion : the AR top can be swapped out to convert to quite a variety of rounds from 458 down to meet any need - tactical, survival or hunting. It's simply a more versatile and modern platform. Piston or gas impingement both have their fans.

"more versatile" again depends on your definition and preferences. more after market/gadgets for the AR? yes. more versatile? well, can the AR go from a wood stock hunting rifle to a tactical nightmare with a simple stock change? nope.

[TLuker]

Originally Posted by Gonzilla

I realize it may be bad form to pick the AR over the mini on a Mini 14 forum but it's not even close. I heard about the accuracy problems but I still chose the mini and it was simply economics. The mini was $400 at the time and AR was $800.

Being X-military, I am very familiar w the AR and it is a superior platform right out of the box. Look at any Midway USA or equivalent calalog and it will have 4-8 pages devoted to mini and 40 devoted to AR.

Caliber conversion : the AR top can be swapped out to convert to quite a variety of rounds from 458 down to meet any need - tactical, survival or hunting. It's simply a more versatile and modern platform. Piston or gas impingement both have their fans.

Barrel length is dependent upon what your going to use it for. I'd pay the $200 and get the 14" barrel as it handles like a dream but you'll lose velocity - no free lunch.

AR's have a lot of advantages and that's why they're so popular. I would even agree that the AR is a superior platform out of the box for a lot of people, but not everyone. Personally I think the Mini is a more dependable platform than the AR? I can do some tweaking to dial in the accuracy on the mini, but I can't fix the action on an AR.

And posting your comments here is very appropriate. You made some really good points, and I don't doubt that the AR is a better platform for you and a lot of other people. We all have our own preferences. I'm glad they make both the AR and Mini and I wouldn't knock anyone for going with an AR.

[Gonzilla]

Hawkguy: I believe that is a fair & reasoned response. I am in the process of getting a Hogue stock, and will try to Flitz (polish ) the barrel plus greater variety of ammo to try and solve some of my accuracy & reliability woes.

Already purchased genuine Ruger mags - from my Internet search, a lot of reliability problems have been mag related. Makes me wonder how the military ARs perform so well w mags from the lowest bidder ?

Talked to Clark Custom about installing a match quality barrel. They've been down that road and began to list the "issues" - the one I remember is the gas system would have to be replaced.

If one is to go down that road, Accuracy Systems Inc. is a mini specialist who will guarantee 1.75" or less for $529 and that is the base line package. For $799 they will guarantee MOA. They also have an excellent variety of after market parts and their CS was very helpful over the phone.

Thank you TLuker, I will try and tweak away until I get some satisfaction.