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Old 06-11-2012, 01:18 AM   #11
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Isn't the abrasive in JB supposed to be softer than barrel steel?
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I've got some polish and Lord knows my mini could use it. I don't think Ruger spent a lot on the barrel. Barrel conditioning gets controversial.
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I use a lead lap with JB, it works pretty fast and very well.
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I swear by JB and use for breaking in all of my new rifles. What really sold me on it was when I tried it on my .303 Enfield. Shot groups went from 3+ inches at 100 yards to 1" at 100 yards, and the only the thing I did was clean the barrel with JB. It made a big difference on my mini as well.

I use a wire cleaning brush and wrap a patch around the wire brush. Then dip in JB and make 10 strokes. Finish off with Hoppes #9 and then a dry patch. I generally use it every 300 rounds or so, but more often with the mini for now. The barrel just isn't quite there yet. I've noticed when a barrel is right that a semi loose patch at just the right speed will whistle when it goes down the barrel. Mine is not quite to that point.
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Will Flitz polishing compound do ? I have some of that to clean up my SS handguns when they get really nasty. Works great but is over priced so I use it sparingly. Too expensive to use if it's not going to,produce results.
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Yes, they both work well.
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Will Flitz polishing compound do ? I have some of that to clean up my SS handguns when they get really nasty. Works great but is over priced so I use it sparingly. Too expensive to use if it's not going to,produce results.
All of it should be used sparingly. And once a barrel is broken in you should be able to keep the fouling down with normal cleaning (solvent). Then clean with bore cleaner once in a blue moon. The purpose of breaking in a barrel is to smooth out the surface so that it doesn't foul easily.
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Here is an interesting discussion on hand lapping vs Tubb's. Note the comments about hand lapping and the muzzle crown.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/barrel-lapping-vs-tubbs-final-finish-14982/
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I just read a thread where they considered the mini's range to 300 yds. Not sure exactly who's mini they were talking about. Mine is a tack driver at 50 yds but opens up after that.

Ruger techs say send it in and they'll give you a deal on a new one. They've spent a lot on trying to help the problem themselves to no avail.

I am hoping the Flitz w smooth things out and I'll try to spend a wee bit more on ammo. She doesn't like the Mil surplus stuff - "Smuckers" my bud calls it cause it's Jam City. .
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I just read a thread where they considered the mini's range to 300 yds. Not sure exactly who's mini they were talking about. Mine is a tack driver at 50 yds but opens up after that.

Ruger techs say send it in and they'll give you a deal on a new one. They've spent a lot on trying to help the problem themselves to no avail.

I am hoping the Flitz w smooth things out and I'll try to spend a wee bit more on ammo. She doesn't like the Mil surplus stuff - "Smuckers" my bud calls it cause it's Jam City. .
There's a lot that goes into dialing in a gun. Finding the bullet it likes is part of it. A lot of the mil-surplus is 62gr and it was made for a barrel with a 1:7 rate of twist. The mini is 1:9. It will shoot the mil-surplus stuff but accuracy at distance can suffer. Mine doen't like 62 gr bullets. I just don't think there is enough spin in the 1:9 barrel of the mini to stabilize a 62 gr bullet. On the flip size a lot of the lighter bullets made for varmints can fly apart because they were built for the 1:12 rate of twist in most varmint rifles. Try different bullets until you find one it likes and try those bullets at longer distances.
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