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Old 06-18-2013, 07:52 PM   #1
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I went to the range yesterday and shot about 100 rounds with my Glock 21. I can't seem to bring my grouping more to the right. I always shoot left.

The first time I shot my grouping was high and left (second picture [15 yards]). Now I shot yesterday and this is what I got (first picture [12.5 yards])

Any suggestions as to how I can correct the problem?

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Old 06-18-2013, 07:58 PM   #2
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I went to the range yesterday and shot about 100 rounds with my Glock 21. I can't seem to bring my grouping more to the right. I always shoot left.

The first time I shot my grouping was high and left. Now I shot yesterday and this is what I got.

Any suggestions as to how I can correct the problem?
Wait for a cease-fire, go down , and move your target a little bit to the left.......
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Wait for a cease-fire, go down , and move your target a little bit to the left.......
Beat me to it!

But seriously, have you let anybody else try the pistol; could your sights be in need of adjustment?


Also, review the chart on post #5 (different for lefty's). http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f166/m-p-9mm-pattern-74660/#post982995 Could your trigger finger be a bit small?
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Grouping is fine, so it is not your shooting basics. A lot of new Glock owners shoot low and to left. They are anticipating recoil of a light polymer gun. You are just shooting left. You would miss the target to the left further down range though. Adjust rear sight more to the right. I would like to add that I personally have some crazy eyes, and have to add a little Kentucky windage when firing guns. My irons, Holographic, red dot and scope are adjusted further right for me to hit dead center. Most people would shoot left of dead center with my guns.

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Beat me to it!

But seriously, have you let anybody else try the pistol; could your sights be in need of adjustment?

Also, review the chart on post #5 (different for lefty's). http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f166/m-p-9mm-pattern-74660/#post982995 Could your trigger finger be a bit small?
The gun fits me fine. It doesn't feel or seem too big in my hands, although I have thought about getting a new trigger for it so there isn't such long of a pull.

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Grouping is fine, so it is not your shooting basics. A lot of new Glock owners shoot low and to left. They are anticipating recoil of a light polymer gun. You are just shooting left. You would miss the target to the left further down range though. Adjust rear sight more to the right. I would like to add that I personally have some crazy eyes, and have to add a little Kentucky windage when firing guns. My irons, Holographic, red dot and scope are adjusted further right for me to hit dead center. Most people would shoot left of dead center with my guns.
The picture was at 12 and a half yards. This is my first gun so I haven't shot an all metal handgun before. And the guy I let shoot before couldn't hit anything, so that doesn't help me. I'll see about the sights though. I thought I was jerking the trigger, but I was taking my time with each shot to slowly pull it.
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Default Low and left....been there, done that.

Yep, I often times hit low and left too. It happens when I rush the shot.




But on a more serious note regarding handguns, try loosening your grip a bit. It's hard to describe...but your finger tips should not be tight on the grip but rather more the palms and your fingers out to the first knuckle (out from your palm). Low and left is common with a grip that is too tight. When I get in a hurry, mine start doing that too and I have to really focus on my grip. I also had a slight problem with my stance. I was blading off too much to the right, which also contributed to my shooting left (not realizing that I was pulling too hard with my support hand while my strong arm was too compressed). An instructor at my last class corrected me on that one.

Anyway, you'll get it....it just takes time and practice. Sometimes a lesson or two with a good instructor can be well worth the $$ spent when compared to lots of bullets flying down range and you still not getting it right while experimenting on your own. Something to consider.

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Yep, I often times hit low and left too. It happens when I rush the shot.

But on a more serious note regarding handguns, try loosening your grip a bit. It's hard to describe...but your finger tips should not be tight on the grip but rather more the palms and your fingers out to the first knuckle (out from your palm). Low and left is common with a grip that is too tight. When I get in a hurry, mine start doing that too and I have to really focus on my grip. I also had a slight problem with my stance. I was blading off too much to the right, which also contributed to my shooting left (not realizing that I was pulling too hard with my support hand while my strong arm was too compressed). An instructor at my last class corrected me on that one.

Anyway, you'll get it....it just takes time and practice. Sometimes a lesson or two with a good instructor can be well worth the $$ spent when compared to lots of bullets flying down range and you still not getting it right while experimenting on your own. Something to consider.
I didn't even think about my stance. I haven't had anyone teach me anything on how to shoot. I just go off of what I've seen for a few shows (mainly top shot) I'll ask a range master and maybe (s)he could give me a few pointers.
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I agree with Jagermiester. That is not a bad group. There are only a few fliers. As long as your rounds are all going the same place, I would be prone to think it was your sights. I would adjust the rear sight just a tiny bit at a time until you are centered. Then I would move it out a little further, say 25 yards...just to see if you are still in the ball park.

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You could try putting more trigger finger around the trigger. It's what I have to do with every hand gun I pick up, especially guns with a long double action pull.

But your group is good, judging by a 100 round group, so simply adjusting your sights like has already been mentioned might be a better route.

It would be a great idea to get a critique on your stance like your talking about doing. Simply pointing the toes on one foot at a slight angle can make a world of difference, good or bad.

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