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Old 08-16-2013, 08:32 PM   #11
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Stupid lazy people abound in this country.
Don't want to go through separating brass from steel? I have a secret for you, brass is not magnetic, steel is.
If you need directions on how to take advantage of this information, bring your guns to the police station and turn them in.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:50 PM   #12
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It is a shame. Owners of firing ranges are taking advantage in areas that are mostly Urban. Sporting goods stores and Gun Show vendors are robbing American owners by created ammo shortages. Elected public officials and Liberal governments blame gun owners for every crime committed. The President offers Gay marriage and no punishment for street drugs while disarming the civilian population. Has anyone ever read the history of the Jewish people in Pre-War Germany?
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Yeah, the flunkies hanging around the range with nothing to do could just as easily separate steel case from brass in their spare time even with one thumb up their butt or on a cell phone. Mountainman13's idea could have it completed In about 3 seconds with one of those 200-lb handheld magnets from Harbor Freight, but that may be a little too intelligent and easy.
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Yeah, the flunkies hanging around the range with nothing to do could just as easily separate steel case from brass in their spare time even with one thumb up their butt or on a cell phone. Mountainman13's idea could have it completed In about 3 seconds with one of those 200-lb handheld magnets from Harbor Freight, but that may be a little too intelligent and easy.
Of course those flunkies would say they couldn't lift a 200 lb magnet. (sarcasm intended)
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Laziness and greed. A local indoor range makes more money selling brass than it does on range fees. I refuse to go there with any self loading pistols (only revolvers) and I use a brass catcher on my rifles, even .22 LR. Screw them. I will sell the scrap brass. It is MINE!
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:26 PM   #16
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yup its pretty tough on paper targets
Yes it is! It's also major wear & tear on new generation traps, with a --very slight-- chance of fire.

It's their range, they get to make the rules. If you don't like their rules (as mentioned), don't go there. Only place in town? Then you're SOL.

I've never heard of any indoor range that prohibits brass catchers, and everybody I know that reloads collects or catches their brass.
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The two indoor ranges we have visited said it was because the steel core bullet hits the backstop and sparks, causing a greater risk of fire. He let us shoot one more to demonstrate and compared to the regular non-brass round, it was a significant difference! The outdoor shooting areas on BLM land near here have signs about safe shooting, and recently added to please not shoot steel case during fire season for the same reason. We are in AZ and it is VERY dry (duh) so perhaps more sensitive than say the mid-west.

Perhaps it is BS, perhaps it is laziness, perhaps some of all the above, but the bottom line is their range, their rules. Don't like it. can't shoot there....
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I find it hard to believe that all this Wolf steel-cased ammo I have bought has the steel cores in the bullets, very difficult to believe.

Again, i am reminded how good it is to have friends and family with land to shoot on.


Bimetal vs. steel core

http://uspsa.org/front-sight-magazine-article.php?Should-I-Buy-BiMetal-Ammo-8
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steel cases ammo almost always has steel bullets also. they may not want steel bullets used on their targets.
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yup its pretty tough on paper targets
No one cares about the target. Our local range had thousands of dollars damage done to the backstop from steel bullets. They check everyone's ammo with a magnet these days. They don't really care too much about the cases, but if the projectiles are magnetic, you can't shoot it there.
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No one cares about the target. Our local range had thousands of dollars damage done to the backstop from steel bullets. They check everyone's ammo with a magnet these days. They don't really care too much about the cases, but if the projectiles are magnetic, you can't shoot it there.
x2. The steel cased is OK but if it is steel core you are outta luck. And most Wolf, Tula, etc. is steel core, very easy to check your ammo or any you are thinking of buying. Simply take a small magnet and hold it to the tip of the bullet. If it sticks, you are looking at a steel core round.

The good news department is the steel core will penetrate more (another reason ranges don't allow it) so it'd be good for stopping a car, right through the engine block.
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