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Old 05-04-2015, 12:45 AM   #1
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So a friend came across some military body armor that was being thrown out do to wear and tear. There's no ballistic plates and he said the stitches are coming apart in multiple places so it's no good for protection. I guess that leaves target practice the only logical use for it. I think I'll start with the XDs9, then should I go for the AR or skip it and go straight to the AK? These are important decisions and help would be appreciated =)


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Old 05-04-2015, 01:08 AM   #2
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Sorta pointless without the plates


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Does it suck that much?
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Does it suck that much?
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but a bulletproof vest without the bulletproof plates is just a vest.
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I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but a bulletproof vest without the bulletproof plates is just a vest.

Kinda sounds like a challenge, maybe a couple weeks but I'll post my results with pictures. Let's see how well our boys are protected, or not...
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Be sure exactly what subject matter we're discussing. "Ballistic Vests" are those softer vests used by police officers and some civilians as daily wear to protect themselves from handgun fire. Military vests are typically called "Plate Carriers" and are themselves NOT bullet resistant, but have large pockets for thick, hard ceramic SAPI (Small Arms Protective Insert) plates which provide protection against military rifle fire. Be sure to differentiate between the two as they are very different in protection and use.
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Also, Flak jackets and vests fall under military body armor, but we're not designed to stop bullets. By hey were made to stop low velocity, irregular shaped pieces of metal, like shrapnel. Some may stop a small range of pistol bullets some times, but it was still not their original purpose. And they don't stop knives in a stabbing motion, as a couple of Marines found out, just horsing around.
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Be sure exactly what subject matter we're discussing. "Ballistic Vests" are those softer vests used by police officers and some civilians as daily wear to protect themselves from handgun fire. Military vests are typically called "Plate Carriers" and are themselves NOT bullet resistant, but have large pockets for thick, hard ceramic SAPI (Small Arms Protective Insert) plates which provide protection against military rifle fire. Be sure to differentiate between the two as they are very different in protection and use.
I was ignorant of this, as I thought the military vest was a kevlar based bullet resistant vest that ALSO had plates.
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Tank,

In your testing you will probably find it will stop the 9mm with little problem. However there are few vests to my knowledge that will stop a rifle round like the 223/5.56, 7.62X39, 7.62X51 or others without the plates. Anyone believing that they will stop rifle rounds without the plate would soon have a real shock. Just for additional information, the proper covered plates is a very critical issue as well. We did a test one time with a vest with plates in it using those foam heads from a beauticians school. And when the vest and plates were shot with a 7.62X51 round the shrapnel from the bullet shaved the face off of the dummy!

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most common is the vietnam era flak vest still in use. stops blunt force slashing and shrapnel is not protective against stabbing or 9mm+ cartridges. this vest is excellent for riot duty especially if combined with the civilian vest

civilian vest is in wide use by mp forces same as flak but lighter and no protection from blunt force will stop up to 357mag has pocket for optional trauma plate to stop breast breakage from 357+ cartridges. plate is not rated for rifle.

plate carrier, no protection without single use plates rated for 7.62x39 and long range 7.62x54r as used by long distance snipers


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