[MobileMarine]

LIke I have said in previous post , we have a 45ac flooded rock quarry that is 450yrs bank to bank , the bench rest is about 50ft above the water with the range being @ water level . Just for giggles we got out the 9 - 38-357-40-44-45 -.17 -22lr . NONE would hit the other side , I would estimate a 50-100yrd short fall before the rounds just flopped into the water . So Im going to call big B/s on the 1.5 mile range written on the side of the ammo boxes . On the other hand I was very suprised how flat a 7.62x39 steel cased round will shoot . I could pick off a 3in diameter pole with iron sights @ 450 on a norinco sks . Out of all of the round that did not make it the .17 hmr suprised me the most @ its short falls , and i think the .22 lr made it the furthest , maybe the 17 just dont have enough ass behind it . I was almost sure I could at least thump some one in the head with one of the rounds at that distance

[canebrake]

Great post. Don't know what I can add but very interesting.

[JonM]

Originally Posted by MobileMarine

LIke I have said in previous post , we have a 45ac flooded rock quarry that is 450yrs bank to bank , the bench rest is about 50ft above the water with the range being @ water level . Just for giggles we got out the 9 - 38-357-40-44-45 -.17 -22lr . NONE would hit the other side , I would estimate a 50-100yrd short fall before the rounds just flopped into the water . So Im going to call big B/s on the 1.5 mile range written on the side of the ammo boxes . On the other hand I was very suprised how flat a 7.62x39 steel cased round will shoot . I could pick off a 3in diameter pole with iron sights @ 450 on a norinco sks . Out of all of the round that did not make it the .17 hmr suprised me the most @ its short falls , and i think the .22 lr made it the furthest , maybe the 17 just dont have enough ass behind it . I was almost sure I could at least thump some one in the head with one of the rounds at that distance

the 1.5 mile thing on the box lets ya know under ideal conditions with the proper elevation with the wind in the bullet's favour the round is capable of traveling up to that distance. never underestimate the power of murphy.

[Jpyle]

Originally Posted by MobileMarine

LIke I have said in previous post , we have a 45ac flooded rock quarry that is 450yrs bank to bank , the bench rest is about 50ft above the water with the range being @ water level . Just for giggles we got out the 9 - 38-357-40-44-45 -.17 -22lr . NONE would hit the other side , I would estimate a 50-100yrd short fall before the rounds just flopped into the water . So Im going to call big B/s on the 1.5 mile range written on the side of the ammo boxes . On the other hand I was very suprised how flat a 7.62x39 steel cased round will shoot . I could pick off a 3in diameter pole with iron sights @ 450 on a norinco sks . Out of all of the round that did not make it the .17 hmr suprised me the most @ its short falls , and i think the .22 lr made it the furthest , maybe the 17 just dont have enough ass behind it . I was almost sure I could at least thump some one in the head with one of the rounds at that distance

Hitting the ground, or water in this case, because of gravity and running out of force, i.e. velocity are different. All bullets eventually arc downwards, when the round hit the water it still had velocity and forward momentum, it just ran out of room. Shoot the same round at a 45 degree angle to the water and see if it makes the other bank.

[Hairtrigger]

What about Elmer Keith shooting a deer at 600 yards with a 44mag?
Elmer wasn't lying: The truth about long range sixgunning - The Six Gunner | American Handgunner | Find Articles at BNET

[dunerunner]

Sooo, if I shoot straight out from the top of Mt. Everest is that where the manufacturers get the maximum range measurement? We're not going to do that bullet fired in space thing again!

Interesting post mobile! Something I've thought about for a long time.

[cpttango30]

Originally Posted by MobileMarine

LIke I have said in previous post , we have a 45ac flooded rock quarry that is 450yrs bank to bank , the bench rest is about 50ft above the water with the range being @ water level . Just for giggles we got out the 9 - 38-357-40-44-45 -.17 -22lr . NONE would hit the other side , I would estimate a 50-100yrd short fall before the rounds just flopped into the water . So Im going to call big B/s on the 1.5 mile range written on the side of the ammo boxes . On the other hand I was very suprised how flat a 7.62x39 steel cased round will shoot . I could pick off a 3in diameter pole with iron sights @ 450 on a norinco sks . Out of all of the round that did not make it the .17 hmr suprised me the most @ its short falls , and i think the .22 lr made it the furthest , maybe the 17 just dont have enough ass behind it . I was almost sure I could at least thump some one in the head with one of the rounds at that distance

You sir are dead wrong.

First that would be a bullet fired at a 45* angle. First if you are shooting down hill that is going to be a problem as well. Plus a bullet starts to drop the instant it exits the barrel as well it starts losing velocity the millisecond it exits the barrel. You are missing so major factors in your equations. bullets NEVER EVER EVER rise above the line of the boar it is an impossibility. Bullets may raise in relation to the line of sight but never ever above the line of the boar.

[jpattersonnh]

Originally Posted by cpttango30

You sir are dead wrong.

First that would be a bullet fired at a 45* angle. First if you are shooting down hill that is going to be a problem as well. Plus a bullet starts to drop the instant it exits the barrel as well it starts losing velocity the millisecond it exits the barrel. You are missing so major factors in your equations. bullets NEVER EVER EVER rise above the line of the boar it is an impossibility. Bullets may raise in relation to the line of sight but never ever above the line of the boar.

True, Your sight line and projectile intersect in 2 places. A fat chick is still fat even if your looking down! your sight line is at a lower angle then the bore and starts above it.

[russ]

Ever watch Impossible Shots on the Outdoor Channel? Several weeks ago, Bob Munden popped a baloon at 600 yards with a 1911. Saw it on TV so it must be true.

[jpattersonnh]

Originally Posted by russ

Ever watch Impossible Shots on the Outdoor Channel? Several weeks ago, Bob Munden popped a baloon at 600 yards with a 1911. Saw it on TV so it must be true.

I have a sweet spot on my sights w/ my S&W 19-4 w/ a 6" barrel that makes it possible to actually take 100 yard shots at an 8" target possible w/ my 158gr hunting loads.
Not that I would hunt real game except for maybe coyotes or 2 legged vermin at that range.