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Old 10-10-2013, 02:54 PM   #21
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i beg to differ. my brother, recently bought a new Taurus semi-auto 25PLY and we shot about 100 rounds between us with not one problem occuring.
You need to keep that gun if it will fit in your pocket. I have never sold a pocket pistol that is 100% reliable. I have given a couple 100% reliable pocket pistols to loved ones. A pocket pistol that is 100% reliable is like finding a diamond. If you read the owners manual for most 25/32 cal pocket pistols the manufacturer recommends FMJ ammo to ensure reliability.


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I remember an article in the news in Indianapolis a couple of decades ago about somebody who was shot from across a street with a .25 auto. He was shot in the head and died before LE/EMS got to the scene.
With any caliber shot placement is the key. Sure, there have been people bleed to death from being shot in the leg, if a major artery or vein is severed, but These are not instant fight stoppers. The guy can still return fire for a while.


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I agree shot placement is a big key to any time you need to defend yourself. I'm just saying I would trust my .380 or .25 with Hornady XTP to defend my life. Neither one my over Penetrate however I do believe there would be enough if hit in the right spots, to do the job.
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I agree shot placement is a big key to any time you need to defend yourself. I'm just saying I would trust my .380 or .25 with Hornady XTP to defend my life. Neither one my over Penetrate however I do believe there would be enough if hit in the right spots, to do the job.
Totally agree. And the fact that a .380 or .25 is a gun you are more likely to carry without a rig is a big plus. Unless you are a suit and tie guy, you are more likely to pocket the small auto than gear up with a full size pistol.
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Personally I have 4 guns I could CCW with, originally I bought my Ruger LCP for that purpose and carried it, then I bought my (2) 25 auto's which I thought would make a good back up or carry if something ever happened to the Ruger, but then I bought my S&W .32 long which I liked the most, so I decided to make it my primary conceal carry, which I've been doing, but then if wanted something smaller/lighter yet could go back to my Ruger......and then if needed to my .25's. My primary holster is a IWB Holster w/ my cell phone pouch attached to the outside of it......so when wearing it, ist looks like I'm strictly carrying my phone....3 of my for CCW's fit in it just fine, so that works out great, so I any more I've been carrying my S&W in the holster and it works out fine.....plus since I'm always reaching there for my phone......I can quickly draw my gun without even thinking about where it's at or how to draw. It has become second nature, when ever I put my phone on I just put the whole holster over my pants and go.......and yes although a .380 is more powerful then a .32 long......i can get faster follow up shots with it, which is quite important.
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I don't see over penetration as an issue with a .380 or a smaller caliber. It's not like any pistol that one is likely to carry is going to stop an attacker by shock. Stopping by shock is something that is reserved for centerfire rifles. I have seen two barroom brawls were someone was shot with a small caliber handgun. Both times the shot stopped the brawl but it didn't knock the target down. The shooting just scared the brawlers so badly that neither party wanted to fight anymore. Both times the shooter ran away and the person that got shot was hollering I have been shot. If it was a drug crazed attacker or one of those people that don't remember what they do in a fight they would have rammed the pistol in a body orifice.
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Well personally if I ever have to shoot someone, I'm not going to stop until the threat is over, or I'm out of ammo, if the first round don't drop them, I'm going to be unloading multiple rounds in them. If its drugged oust person thats whacked out of his mind, I'm likely to unload all 6 rounds in to them, and will probably stop him as I'll be shooting to kill, not to injure.
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Well personally if I ever have to shoot someone, I'm not going to stop until the threat is over, or I'm out of ammo, if the first round don't drop them, I'm going to be unloading multiple rounds in them. If its drugged oust person thats whacked out of his mind, I'm likely to unload all 6 rounds in to them, and will probably stop him as I'll be shooting to kill, not to injure.
wrong approach. you are shooting to stop a threat, period. whatever it takes to stop that person from being a threat. you are not shooting to injure, you are not shooting to kill. you were in fear for your life and your were simply shooting until that person was no longer a threat to you.

using the wrong wording can end up causing you great legal troubles.

Canebrake wrote an excellent post on this. please read it for your own good.

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f17/read-before-you-decide-carry-67036/
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Axxe, I think that's the third time today I've seen you post ballistics numbers from Hornady's website.

I'm starting to wonder if you're affiliated with Hornady... If so, any chance you could hook me up with some .357 Magnum ammo??

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And since your so helpful, I'll take 100 rds of Critical defense lite 38's for the wife and 100 rds, of the 9mm critical duty,..thanks bro! ;-)
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I know better then to ever say I was shooting to kill if I have to pull my gun......I know exactly how to handle law enforcement......all I was saying is that if its a wacked out druggie who will keep coming even after being shot, is that I'll be shooting to kill, in order to stop the threat, as injuring just won't do it. However if I ever have to shoot someone, and I hope I don't......the only thing I'll be saying is that I was shooting to stop the threat, nothing more, nothing less.


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