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Old 10-10-2013, 04:47 AM   #11
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some ballistics for everyone to make some sort of comparisons over. a 22 Mag. with a 45 gr. bullet. http://www.hornady.com/store/22-WMR-45gr-Critical-Defense/ a 25 auto with a 35 r. bullet. http://www.hornady.com/store/25-Auto-35-gr-XTP/ a 380 with a 90 gr. bullet. http://www.hornady.com/store/380-Auto-90-gr-XTP/ a 9mm with a 115 gr bullet. http://www.hornady.com/store/9mm-Luger-115-gr-XTP/
Axxe, I think that's the third time today I've seen you post ballistics numbers from Hornady's website.

I'm starting to wonder if you're affiliated with Hornady... If so, any chance you could hook me up with some .357 Magnum ammo??

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Axxe, I think that's the third time today I've seen you post ballistics numbers from Hornady's website.

I'm starting to wonder if you're affiliated with Hornady... If so, any chance you could hook me up with some .357 Magnum ammo??

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two reasons. i use a lot of Hornady bullets for reloading and use quite a bit of their factory ammo for those i don't reload for. Hornady is good ammo and has great bullets for reloading.

the other reason is that Hornady is a bit hotter on their ammo than the other ammo makers.


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two reasons. i use a lot of Hornady bullets for reloading and use quite a bit of their factory ammo for those i don't reload for. Hornady is good ammo and has great bullets for reloading. the other reason is that Hornady is a bit hotter on their ammo than the other ammo makers.
Makes sense. I just thought it was funny that you're always posting that stuff.
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Makes sense. I just thought it was funny that you're always posting that stuff.
saves a lot of argueing! lets people draw their own conclusions that way. it's not written in stone, but gives a good general idea as to performance of different cartridges.
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i beg to differ. my brother, recently bought a new Taurus semi-auto 25PLY and we shot about 100 rounds between us with not one problem occuring.
I own two .25 ACP semi auto's.......my Colt N 1908 which was made in 1920, and my Taurus PT-25....both have and do shoot Hornady XTP hollow points just fine and is what I keep loaded in both of them except at range time....however I have made sure that it cycles through both just fine, which it does.
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I own two .25 ACP semi auto's.......my Colt N 1908 which was made in 1920, and my Taurus PT-25....both have and do shoot Hornady XTP hollow points just fine and is what I keep loaded in both of them except at range time....however I have made sure that it cycles through both just fine, which it does.
just remember that a 25 is an up close and very personal pistol! very, very up close!

based on the ballistics, i would prefer a small revolver in 22 mag. over the 25 auto. higher velocity and more energy. if i were carrying that small of a pistol to begin with.
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Neither of my .25's are my preferred choice for self-defense, however I still wouldn't hesitate to use it to defend myself. For home defense my choice is my Glock 22, following by my 1911.......if I can get it loaded in time, my Mossberg 500.....for CCW my daily carry is my S&W 30-1 .32 long......and at times my Ruger LCP, which is a .380

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.25's may not be very powerul, and there's a lot better choices for defense, I do believe it can be just as deadly, I sure wouldn't want to get shot by it.

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javelin225HO,

I personally don't think you should judge the bullets based on this test. It's nothing against the bullets, but if you used the same book, the density of the medium changed after the first shot.

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I could be wrong, however I have yet to here of anyone not having deep enough penetration with a .380 regardless of type of ammo. I'm willing to bet my life on it, even a .25 auto with hollow point will have deep enough penetration to do it's job.
Using the FBI and International Wound Ballistics Association standards for penetration, ideal penetration depth should be between 12.5 and 14 inches in bare ordinance gelatin. Few .380 rounds make this standard. Almost no .25 rounds meet this standard.

The reason for that degree of depth is to ensure penetration to vital organs and blood vessels in a dynamic shooting situation where clothing, bone, and bullet entrance angles may not be head on. Other anatomical structures such as a hand, arm or other bones may be encountered before a bullet finds the torso. That can also mean multiple layers of clothing on entry, exit and reentry .

I'm not saying the calibers can't be effective for defense, just that on the issue if penetration, .380 hollow points are not commonly considered to have an over penetration problem.


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