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Old 10-23-2014, 06:57 AM   #1
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Here is a 22 mag gelatin test in 20% gelatin. Brassfetcher does not mention the distance for this test. Usually when brassfetcher tests a rifle they test at 50 yards. This test is with a 40 grain Remington Power Soft Point, one of my favorite hunting cartridges.

My Marlin was incredibly ammo sensitive until recently. Apparently the micro groove barrel requires a lot of ammo to break it in. It shoots very well with any ammo after a couple years of shooting. I have shot the rifle so much I have worn the bluing off the bolt. When I first got the gun it would only shoot 40gr CCI TMJ, 40gr CCI game point and 40 gr Remington PSP ammo accurately.

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sorry, invalid link.



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Link is working fine now. Only 9" of penetration is disappointing but it really is for small game. Expanded very well.

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22 Magnum is for smaller game. just how much penetration does one really need for small game?

ballistic gelatin is simply a test medium to yield consistent results from different types of rounds and not an accurate test medium for actual results in comparison to flesh, bone or muscle tissue.

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Actually 9" penetration is damn impressive for a 22 mag. The wound channel looked pretty good also. Retained weight was also very good on this bullet. The Powerpoint that Remington is now using behaves as a proper hunting bullet, not the pure lead slugs we're used to in the past.

I think I'm going to have to reevaluate 22mag based on what I've just seen. I can see some test shooting in my future...

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Link is working fine now. Only 9" of penetration is disappointing but it really is for small game. Expanded very well.
A 223 soft point only penetrated 12" in 10% gelatin. 9" in 20% gelatin is very comparable to the .223. If you need penetration from a small load use a FMJ/TMJ. A FMJ/TMJ would pass through the 20% gelatin.

I have a mild steel spinner that I have shot with a variety of handgun loads up to 357 mag without any damage. I have even shot the spinner repeatedly with a 9mm carbine. Don't take me wrong I am not saying a 22 wmr has more energy than a 357 mag, even when fired from a rifle. But I had to quit shooting the spinner with my 22 mag rifle because it was dimpling my spinner so badly it would be unsafe to shoot. A 22 mag fired from a rifle has about the same energy as a 9mm pistol with a standard load. But that energy is focused on an area smaller than a thumbtack.
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do you know that 20% jello was abandoned over 20 years ago, as being 'non-indicative" of actual performance in flesh and blood? 10% jello has to be carried to the range in a cooler, and used at once, cause it needs to be held at about 40F degrees or the results are not calibrated to pig muscle (which is the best that any stimulant claims). Vital organs are much more easily penetrated than muscle, and the lungs are just air sacks. So the nice expansion seen in jello usually does not happen in animal tests of the same loads. Flesh and blood is flesh and blood. If a load overpenetrates in jello (ie, more than 10", I guarantee you that it will overpenetrate (ie, not do all the damage and cause all the shock that it could have) on men.

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One of the places i hunt wild hogs bans the use of centerfire rifles, shotgun slugs and muzzleloading rifles outside of deer/elk season. i've killed a couple dozen hogs there with the .22 magnum. Some of those hogs weighed over 200 pounds: Most were killed from stands overlooking game plots and water holes. i use the CCI 40 grain total metal jacket round.

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One of the places i hunt wild hogs bans the use of centerfire rifles, shotgun slugs and muzzleloading rifles outside of deer/elk season. i've killed a couple dozen hogs there with the .22 magnum. Some of those hogs weighed over 200 pounds: Most were killed from stands overlooking game plots and water holes. i use the CCI 40 grain total metal jacket round.
I had penetration problems on hogs with 223 a couple years ago. Built a 6.8 to guarantee that a skull shot would pass through both sides. No matter what angle the shot is. Barnes TSX bullets all the way....

A friend of mine shot a large (350lbs) hog in the (center forehead, head on shot) skull. Bloody wound and the hog went down. We chase with dogs in the swamps. We went down to admin the coup de grace with a hunting knife to the jugular. He had the knife, I had my camera when the hog woke up. He got 47 stitches, I finished the hog with my 44 mag pistol while hanging from a tree limb one handed. Two dead dogs. Dumb luck....

I'll never trust anything that small again on (semi)dangerous game....
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I had penetration problems on hogs with 223 a couple years ago. Built a 6.8 to guarantee that a skull shot would pass through both sides. No matter what angle the shot is. Barnes TSX bullets all the way....

A friend of mine shot a large (350lbs) hog in the (center forehead, head on shot) skull. Bloody wound and the hog went down. We chase with dogs in the swamps. We went down to admin the coup de grace with a hunting knife to the jugular. He had the knife, I had my camera when the hog woke up. He got 47 stitches, I finished the hog with my 44 mag pistol while hanging from a tree limb one handed. Two dead dogs. Dumb luck....

I'll never trust anything that small again on (semi)dangerous game....
Wow, that turned into a story telling outing!


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